A fact that often seems to get swept under the rug in the struggle session about proper bike infrastructure, even by cycling advocate groups, and whether it's gentrificating or not is the fact that the entire thing has a lot of overlap with accessibility features because at many points, you're solving for the same problem: how to make a smoother ride or walk for anything that doesn't have a sophisticated, electronically modulated suspension i.e. anything that's not a car.

I'll point to this video from Not Just Bikes about how to design a curb that's friendly to pedestrians, wheelchairs, bikes, prams etc.

This kind of design extends to many other things. Even if you're not going for continous sidewalks (and ideally, we should), a lowered curb with an edge still sucks a lot more compared to an entirely smooth ramp design for both bikes and wheelchairs and prams and certain mobility issues.. Same extends to maintenance and upkeep. Potholes suck for everybody.

There's loads of little things. In Europe at least, you'll often see cross gates such as this to keep car traffic out or motorbikes out of a certain area and that has the same problem: They fucking suck. It's shitty to ride through as a cyclist and depending on the sizing, forget getting through there in a (electrical) wheelchair.

The Solution to both is making them parallelogram-shaped. It keeps out larger vehicles easily and allows for easy passing for everybody else.

Seriously, if you're advocating for it, include this in your argument., Anyone arguing against accessibility features is sure to look like a major dick to at least a sizeable part of the electorate. If you're on the fence about the topic, please also consider these facts.

EDIT: A fucking great example I forgot: Offering both Ramps (serpentined, with a sufficient radius at the curves) and stairs to cover elevation difference. The ramps are great for both cyclists and people who can't take the stairs for whatever reason.

  • TheDonkeyedKong [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I haven't thought about it like that! Though I guess it won't convince a lot of assholes that hate on bike infrastructure. It's usually a temper tantrum against anything not tailored for their experience, and that includes accessibility.

    Thanks for the bike posting, I might even begin cycling.

    • 4bicycles [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I haven’t thought about it like that! Though I guess it won’t convince a lot of assholes that hate on bike infrastructure. It’s usually a temper tantrum against anything not tailored for their experience, and that includes accessibility.

      The important part is reframing it from "give us bicycle infrastructure" which many bicycling advocates fall into, yours truly included, to "Give us infrastructure not designed around the car only" which really is the goal of any bicycling advocate group I know of in the end. I've never heard any of them arguing for footpaths to be turned into bicycle lanes for a reason. I'm sure you could find an example, but it's really not an actual position anybody has.

      Thanks for the bike posting, I might even begin cycling.

      :sicko-yes:

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    THIS VERY MUCH

    Because I always end up riding my bike in the sidewalk to avoid cars, yet there never are ramps in the street corners. And putting fucking ramps there is the bare minimum you can do for fuck sakes

  • garbology [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I often can't get over how incredibly hostile the US is to get around on foot. I can get all over my entire country without owning a car without any real inconvenience, but in the US you can't even get to the closest grocery store from a lot of housing without a car or walking in the street. Just horrifying.