Reminder that the US was literally bombing the Uighurs not 3 years ago: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2018/02/10/bombing-of-chinese-separatists-in-afghanistan-is-a-sign-of-how-trumps-war-there-has-changed/
"There will be no safe haven for any terrorist group," Gen. John Nicholson, the head of U.S. Forces in Afghanistan, said in a statement Thursday. “We continue to hunt them across the country.”
The U.S. military says it carried out a series of punishing bombings last weekend of Taliban militant camps that also support a separatist Chinese terror group.
Hecker said the strikes "support Afghanistan in reassuring its neighbors that it is not a safe sanctuary for terrorists who want to carry out cross border operations."
Hecker added that the destruction of the training facilities would prevent "terrorists from planning any acts near the border with China and Tajikistan."
Oh how quickly yesterday's "Chinese terror group" that was worth a "punishing bombing" becomes a sphere of concern when suddenly we hate China now. :bean-think:
Anyway, considering Xinjiang has literally 25,000 mosques, the Uighurs were exempted from the one-child policy, and their population (both numbers and %) has been steadily increasing since the 1950s, i feel like suddenly turning around and doing a genocide out of the blue is gonna require more proof, to me, than some grainy photos of mistranslated schools.
Something sus definitely could be happening, but zenz literally got caught lying about scales/numbers and didn't retract it. That's not how science works, comrades. That's not how it works at all. If this is really happening, there is no reason to lie. Zenz doesn't even speak or read Chinese, if this is really happening, why the fuck isn't there an ACTUAL expert getting us all this info???? Like, i'm not gonna trust someone who talked to literally 8 people as his source that millions are missing. That... that is not real science. It would not pass peer review or get published in a scientific journal. How the fuck can i trust that, or any publication that puts their trust in this guy. Seriously, it's like interviewing the My Pillow guy about his official stance on Venezuala or something. Like this motherfucker is a nobody, literally works for the victims of communism foundation, and isn't even respected in his field.
There's definitely proof that the Amerikkka was rendering immigrants infertile in ICE though. That's 100% real AND IMO a better focus of activist energy unless you live if you live here.
They are terrorists who if left alone would keep recruiting and turn Xinjiang into East Turkestan, reinstate sharia law, mandatory veiling, beatings, and all those things that were abolished in the great proletarian cultural revolution.
You can't just do nothing about them. Historically the imperialist countries have dealt with these types by either bombing them to hell or helping them achieve their goals against a geopolitical enemy.
I don't know about India, are Western intelligence agencies also propping up the terrorists there in an attempt to further balkanise their country?
I don't see many people in this thread uncritically worshipping China. Everyone seems aware that it's an operation of a large scale and excesses are inevitably committed. However it's not like we can do an experiment to see how much is too much: toeing the line and failing implies the subordination of millions of women to Islamist extremism, maybe a regression to warlordism and slave markets like in Libya and Yemen, and the almost certain loss of credibility of the CPC towards their citizens.
And from the way this is reported it becomes very difficult to tell apart policy from local excesses and corruption.
I'm not very knowledgeable about the history of the partition, but isn't Pakistan itself a British attempt at helping an Islamic fundamentalist movement form their own state in the manner most likely to spark ethnic an religious tension against the Indian revolutionaries?
Reminder that the US was literally bombing the Uighurs not 3 years ago: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2018/02/10/bombing-of-chinese-separatists-in-afghanistan-is-a-sign-of-how-trumps-war-there-has-changed/
Here's another one from the same time period from another news source, just to add to the pile.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u-s-targets-chinese-uighur-militants-well-taliban-fighters-afghanistan-n845876
Oh how quickly yesterday's "Chinese terror group" that was worth a "punishing bombing" becomes a sphere of concern when suddenly we hate China now. :bean-think:
Anyway, considering Xinjiang has literally 25,000 mosques, the Uighurs were exempted from the one-child policy, and their population (both numbers and %) has been steadily increasing since the 1950s, i feel like suddenly turning around and doing a genocide out of the blue is gonna require more proof, to me, than some grainy photos of mistranslated schools.
Something sus definitely could be happening, but zenz literally got caught lying about scales/numbers and didn't retract it. That's not how science works, comrades. That's not how it works at all. If this is really happening, there is no reason to lie. Zenz doesn't even speak or read Chinese, if this is really happening, why the fuck isn't there an ACTUAL expert getting us all this info???? Like, i'm not gonna trust someone who talked to literally 8 people as his source that millions are missing. That... that is not real science. It would not pass peer review or get published in a scientific journal. How the fuck can i trust that, or any publication that puts their trust in this guy. Seriously, it's like interviewing the My Pillow guy about his official stance on Venezuala or something. Like this motherfucker is a nobody, literally works for the victims of communism foundation, and isn't even respected in his field.
There's definitely proof that the Amerikkka was rendering immigrants infertile in ICE though. That's 100% real AND IMO a better focus of activist energy unless you live if you live here.
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They are terrorists who if left alone would keep recruiting and turn Xinjiang into East Turkestan, reinstate sharia law, mandatory veiling, beatings, and all those things that were abolished in the great proletarian cultural revolution.
You can't just do nothing about them. Historically the imperialist countries have dealt with these types by either bombing them to hell or helping them achieve their goals against a geopolitical enemy.
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I don't know about India, are Western intelligence agencies also propping up the terrorists there in an attempt to further balkanise their country?
I don't see many people in this thread uncritically worshipping China. Everyone seems aware that it's an operation of a large scale and excesses are inevitably committed. However it's not like we can do an experiment to see how much is too much: toeing the line and failing implies the subordination of millions of women to Islamist extremism, maybe a regression to warlordism and slave markets like in Libya and Yemen, and the almost certain loss of credibility of the CPC towards their citizens.
And from the way this is reported it becomes very difficult to tell apart policy from local excesses and corruption.
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I'm not very knowledgeable about the history of the partition, but isn't Pakistan itself a British attempt at helping an Islamic fundamentalist movement form their own state in the manner most likely to spark ethnic an religious tension against the Indian revolutionaries?