What exactly is the "ethnically-targeted destruction of an ethnicity’s culture" here referring to? Can you give me a list of what exactly is being destroyed? Because I see this claim and its always vague, and people think that Uyghur muslims cant practice their religion or culture or language in Xinjiang anymore, which is all wrong.
I think "cultural genocide" and "ethnically-targeted destruction of an ethnicity’s culture" would imply things like banning religious and cultural norms and practices which amounts to the destruction of their cultural and ethnic identities. I dont think any of this indicates anything like that since people are still practicing and studying their religion and culture openly, the language is an official language and translated along Mandarin everywhere in public, mosques are not being closed down, Uyghurs as an ethnic group are not displaced and segregated.
I think theres lots of conflating things happening in this narrative that always seem to amount to broad speculations that get applied to the entire situation. If some people are actually oppressed and imprisoned than everything becomes a concentration camp where Uyghurs are taken to be genocided, even if the vast amount of any established center was always to actually provide means for people to study and get job training to improve their economic disparity which was always at the center of this entire conflict. I think its the same sort of broad speculative narratives applied to the idea of "cultural genocide" as well.
It's hard not to think this is all bullshit when every 'source' ends up leading back to the CIA.
Can you describe what is happening other than - "It's bad, but not the CIA lies level of bad".
Because that really sounds like someone just giving support to outright lies, without wanting to attach themselves to the obviously fake parts of it like organ extraction, etc.
Explain how this isn't just another 'Iraqi WMD' Situation - because it stinks to high hell like one.
Thank you for the explanation of your position here, it is the best take for this being an overreach on China's part I've seen.
However, keep in mind that examples of ethnic oppression have also been wildly exaggerated by those with ill intentions. Westerners have a tendency to immediately draw lines to their own nations' history of genocides and violently reject anything that even resembles treading that path. If China doesn't intend to carry it out to such an extent, that characterization would give the wrong conclusion.
It was bad empanada. The original debates on genocide definitions tried to exclude cultural aspects because of concern it would apply to the residential schools, us oppression of native Americans, Swedish oppression of the Sami, ussr oppression of certain siberian and central Asian cultures, and several others.
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The sterilization story stunk of preemptive projection regarding the ICE camp.
This is the take
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What exactly is the "ethnically-targeted destruction of an ethnicity’s culture" here referring to? Can you give me a list of what exactly is being destroyed? Because I see this claim and its always vague, and people think that Uyghur muslims cant practice their religion or culture or language in Xinjiang anymore, which is all wrong.
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I think "cultural genocide" and "ethnically-targeted destruction of an ethnicity’s culture" would imply things like banning religious and cultural norms and practices which amounts to the destruction of their cultural and ethnic identities. I dont think any of this indicates anything like that since people are still practicing and studying their religion and culture openly, the language is an official language and translated along Mandarin everywhere in public, mosques are not being closed down, Uyghurs as an ethnic group are not displaced and segregated.
I think theres lots of conflating things happening in this narrative that always seem to amount to broad speculations that get applied to the entire situation. If some people are actually oppressed and imprisoned than everything becomes a concentration camp where Uyghurs are taken to be genocided, even if the vast amount of any established center was always to actually provide means for people to study and get job training to improve their economic disparity which was always at the center of this entire conflict. I think its the same sort of broad speculative narratives applied to the idea of "cultural genocide" as well.
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It's hard not to think this is all bullshit when every 'source' ends up leading back to the CIA.
Can you describe what is happening other than - "It's bad, but not the CIA lies level of bad".
Because that really sounds like someone just giving support to outright lies, without wanting to attach themselves to the obviously fake parts of it like organ extraction, etc.
Explain how this isn't just another 'Iraqi WMD' Situation - because it stinks to high hell like one.
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Thank you for the explanation of your position here, it is the best take for this being an overreach on China's part I've seen.
However, keep in mind that examples of ethnic oppression have also been wildly exaggerated by those with ill intentions. Westerners have a tendency to immediately draw lines to their own nations' history of genocides and violently reject anything that even resembles treading that path. If China doesn't intend to carry it out to such an extent, that characterization would give the wrong conclusion.
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It was bad empanada. The original debates on genocide definitions tried to exclude cultural aspects because of concern it would apply to the residential schools, us oppression of native Americans, Swedish oppression of the Sami, ussr oppression of certain siberian and central Asian cultures, and several others.
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