Re-education camps are preferable to the western option: killing them indiscriminately. The fact is you cannot allow religious fundamentalist extremists to carry out attacks on regular people and push for insurrection. Locking them up, breaking the bonds forged by extremism, and teaching them skills are all good for the country and world.
I mean the United States is supporting the Al Qaeda group in that area, you cannot understand that and think "China bad" for protecting their citizens while humanely dealing with a real, deadly problem.
They aren't tossing them into incinerators. They aren't locked up forever a la guantanimo. It's a deprograming platform. If you've got an alternative I'd love to hear it.
Perfect theory exists in the frictionless plane of the internet, and only there. The real world is not perfect. China has to do something to protect their country, because people exist that want to foment unrest and kill people. How do you deal with that?
Dealing with ethnic, national, and religious divisions is a key part of the project of building socialism, and something that can only be dealt with on a proletarian, socialist basis. The idea is to raise conditions for all workers by involving all workers, regardless of background, in the project of socialist transformation via working class control of the economy and society.
China is obviously not resolving these divisions on a socialist basis, which is why, sensationalized takes on genocide aside, you can see the Uighur minority facing real inequality, discrimination, and degrees of repression in China. This is much like how minority groups face inequality, discrimination, and repression in other capitalist nations. Capitalism breeds these problems by pitting worker against worker, and the dominant social/productive relations in China are capitalist.
And there are concrete examples of this question being resolved from the USSR—it’s not a question that exists only on the frictionless plane of the internet.
If you stick a gun to my head and said that you must chose between reeducation camps and unadulterated slaughter, I’d choose re-education, that being said much of the information China has released concerning their re-education program is preachy at best, I.E “These schools teach us why the CCP is best for leading the nation! :-)” and at worst, well we don’t know. All western journalism is Ahmed Chalabi level lies, you can’t trust any of it, but to totally believe China’s position saying that it’s deradicalization and nothing more is Naive and crank as fuck. These re-education centers are thinly veiled internment camps and I have no doubt that racism runs rampant between the Han and Uighurs, and some amount of abuse or discrimination most certainly happens behind the scenes, and this isn’t some Adrian Zenz shit, Chinese cultural isolation and historical racial tension is an unfortunate staple of Chinese society.
Believing fully what China says is ridiculous, you should be just as critical of them as you would the West, and you should always call out western lies of genocide for what they are; a call to war.
Re-education camps are preferable to the western option: killing them indiscriminately. The fact is you cannot allow religious fundamentalist extremists to carry out attacks on regular people and push for insurrection. Locking them up, breaking the bonds forged by extremism, and teaching them skills are all good for the country and world.
I mean the United States is supporting the Al Qaeda group in that area, you cannot understand that and think "China bad" for protecting their citizens while humanely dealing with a real, deadly problem.
They aren't tossing them into incinerators. They aren't locked up forever a la guantanimo. It's a deprograming platform. If you've got an alternative I'd love to hear it.
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Perfect theory exists in the frictionless plane of the internet, and only there. The real world is not perfect. China has to do something to protect their country, because people exist that want to foment unrest and kill people. How do you deal with that?
Dealing with ethnic, national, and religious divisions is a key part of the project of building socialism, and something that can only be dealt with on a proletarian, socialist basis. The idea is to raise conditions for all workers by involving all workers, regardless of background, in the project of socialist transformation via working class control of the economy and society.
China is obviously not resolving these divisions on a socialist basis, which is why, sensationalized takes on genocide aside, you can see the Uighur minority facing real inequality, discrimination, and degrees of repression in China. This is much like how minority groups face inequality, discrimination, and repression in other capitalist nations. Capitalism breeds these problems by pitting worker against worker, and the dominant social/productive relations in China are capitalist.
And there are concrete examples of this question being resolved from the USSR—it’s not a question that exists only on the frictionless plane of the internet.
Then doing nothing, allowing terrorism (including targeting LGBT) and conservative subjugation of women, is a greater-evilism.
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If you stick a gun to my head and said that you must chose between reeducation camps and unadulterated slaughter, I’d choose re-education, that being said much of the information China has released concerning their re-education program is preachy at best, I.E “These schools teach us why the CCP is best for leading the nation! :-)” and at worst, well we don’t know. All western journalism is Ahmed Chalabi level lies, you can’t trust any of it, but to totally believe China’s position saying that it’s deradicalization and nothing more is Naive and crank as fuck. These re-education centers are thinly veiled internment camps and I have no doubt that racism runs rampant between the Han and Uighurs, and some amount of abuse or discrimination most certainly happens behind the scenes, and this isn’t some Adrian Zenz shit, Chinese cultural isolation and historical racial tension is an unfortunate staple of Chinese society.
Believing fully what China says is ridiculous, you should be just as critical of them as you would the West, and you should always call out western lies of genocide for what they are; a call to war.
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