Reddit: Russia was cultivating trumpf for 55555000 years OML

Reality: Trump was one of the many ghouls who participated in the collective destruction of my homeland, profiting from the privatization of the soviet economy, and is responsible for the death and suffering of millions of soviet citizens. He visits moscow and some sellout ex-KGB is like lmao yeah lemme earn some money and look at that he is totally an asset FUCKING I WANT TO DIE

  • Not_irony [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    people believe this. guy at work thinks russia did The Siege of the 6th (making it capitalized makes it seem cooler than it was)

    • CompactTie34 [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

      is this the legendary free thinker?

      • Not_irony [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        he worked in finance for a long time, so he is very :thonk:

    • poppy_apocalypse [he/him, any]
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      4 years ago

      Does he have any historical perspective? When Putin organizes a siege it tends to get kind of homicidal, and not in a taze your balls to heart attack American way.

      • Not_irony [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I think its more Russia did Qannon via interneting/fake news. So no, no historical perspective otherwise he would know qannon is easily home grown amerikkka nonsense

        • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Well then we still can't entirely blame Russia because this shit is self-propagating right here in America. If I get ripped off at a carnival game I don't get mad at the attendant, I get mad at my dumb ass for thinking I could do the ring toss after getting drunk in the parking lot off mini bottles.

    • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Believing the plan from the start was to install Trump as president is true crank shit. But it's plausible that they blackmailed an easily-blackmailable real estate player for no other reason than money laundering stuff and how little effort it took, and then he became much more valuable as time passed.

  • Grimble [he/him,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    This shit has gotta be an op at this point. I firmly believe that in 30 years or so we'll find out the CIA was involved in spreading Russian conspiracy theories to dilute actual political discourse.

    • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      the CIA was involved in spreading Russian conspiracy theories to dilute actual political discourse

      I mean, that's already obvious.

  • CompactTie34 [he/him]
    hexagon
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    4 years ago

    Hmmm pasta time

    ► Trump was first compromised by the Russians in the 80s. In 1984, the Russian Mafia began to use Trump real estate to launder money. In 1987, the Soviet ambassador to the United Nations, Yuri Dubinin, arranged for Trump and his then-wife, Ivana, to enjoy an all-expense-paid trip to Moscow to consider possible business prospects. Only seven weeks after his trip, Trump ran full-page ads in the Boston Globe, the NYT and WaPO calling for, in effect, the dismantling of the postwar Western foreign policy alliance. The whole Trump/Russian connection started out as laundering money for the Russian mob through Trump's real estate, but evolved into something far bigger.

    ► In 1984, David Bogatin — a convicted Russian mobster and close ally of Semion Mogilevich, a major Russian mob boss — met with Trump in Trump Tower right after it opened. Bogatin bought five condos from Trump at that meeting. Those condos were later seized by the government, which claimed they were used to launder money for the Russian mob. (NY Times, Apr 30, 1992)

    ► Felix Sater is a Russian-born former mobster, and former managing director of NY real estate conglomerate Bayrock Group LLC located on the 24th floor of Trump Tower. He is a convict who became a govt cooperator for the FBI and other agencies. He grew up with Michael Cohen--Trump's former "fixer" attorney. Cohen's family owned El Caribe, which was a mob hangout for the Russian Mafia in Brooklyn. Cohen had ties to Ukrainian oligarchs through his in-laws and his brother's in-laws. Felix Sater's father had ties to the Russian mob. This goes back more than 30 years.

    ► Trump was $4 billion in debt after his Atlantic City casinos went bankrupt. No U.S. bank would touch him. Then foreign money began flowing in through Bayrock (mentioned above). Bayrock was run by two investors: Tevfik Arif, a Kazakhstan-born former Soviet official who drew on bottomless sources of money from the former Soviet republic; and Felix Sater, a Russian-born businessman who had pleaded guilty in the 1990s to a huge stock-fraud scheme involving the Russian mafia. Bayrock partnered with Trump in 2005 and poured money into the Trump organization under the legal guise of licensing his name and property management.

    ► In July 2008, the height of the housing bust, Trump sold a mansion in Palm Beach for $95 million to Dmitry Rybolovlev, a Russian oligarch. Trump had purchased it four years earlier for $41.35 million. The sale price was nearly $54 million more than Trump had paid for the property. Again, this was the height of the recession when all other property had plummeted in value.

    ► Semion Mogilevich was the brains behind the Russian Mafia. Mogilevich operatives have been using Trump real estate for decades to launder money. That means Russian Mafia operatives have been part of his fortune for years. Many of them owned condos in Trump Towers and other properties. They were running operations out of Trump's crown jewel.

    ► So many Russians bought Trump apartments at his developments in Florida that the area became known as Little Moscow. The developers of two of his hotels were Russians with significant links to the Russian mob. The late leader of that mob in the United States, Vyacheslav Kirillovich Ivankov, was living at Trump Tower.

    ► According to a Bloomberg investigation (3/16/2017) into Trump World Tower, “a third of units sold on floors 76 through 83 by 2004 involved people or limited liability companies connected to Russia and neighboring states.”

    ► In 2013, Federal agents busted an “ultraexclusive, high-stakes, illegal poker ring” run by Russian gangsters out of Trump Tower. They operated card games, illegal gambling websites, and a global sports book and laundered more than $100 million. A condo directly below one owned by Trump reportedly served as HQ for a “sophisticated money-laundering scheme” connected to Semion Mogilevich.

    ► The Russia Mafia is part and parcel of Russian intelligence. Russia is a mafia state. That is not a metaphor. Putin is head of the Mafia. So the fact that they have been operating out of the home of the president of the United States is deeply disturbing.

    ► Rudy Giuliani famously prosecuted the Italian mob while he was a federal prosecutor, yet the Russian mob was allowed to thrive. Now he's deeply entwined in the business of Trump and Russian oligarchs. Giuiani appointed Semyon Kislin to the NYC Economic Development Council in 1990, and the FBI described Kislin as having ties to the Russian mob. Of course, it made good political sense for Giuliani to get headlines for smashing the Italian mob.

    ► A lot of Republicans in Washington are implicated. Boatloads of Russian money went to the GOP--often in legal ways. The NRA got as much as $70M from Russia, then funneled it to the GOP. The Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee lead by McConnell got millions from Leonard Blavatnik. In the 90s, the Russians began sending money to top GOP leaders, like Speaker of the House Tom Delay. Craig Unger's book alleges that most of the GOP leadership has been compromised by RU money.

    ► At the Cityscape USA’s Bridging US and the Emerging Real Estate Markets Conference held in Manhattan, on September 9, 10, and 11, 2008, Donald Trump Jr. was frank about the tide of Russian money supporting the family business, saying "...And in terms of high-end product influx into the US, Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets."

    ► Eric Trump told golf reporter James Dodson in 2014 that the Trump Organization was able to expand during the financial crisis because “We don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.”

    ► It's believed that Russian oligarchs co-signed Trump’s Deutsche bank loans.

    • Audeamus [any]
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      4 years ago

      If this narrative was actually true/provable, then US intelligence agencies would immediately give the evidence (or manufacture simulacra) for the media to play. One mafia doesn't let another mafia invade its turf. Instead, we have a bunch of con artists meeting a bunch of others and promising each other hot air, plus rumors of a piss tape.

      All this amounts to is "there's criminal corruption in the US and Russia, ergo Trump serves Putin". QAnon for libs is accurate.

  • CompactTie34 [he/him]
    hexagon
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    4 years ago

    """40 years of training.

    still

    fucked

    everything

    up.

    the Russians HATE him right now.

    varsity fuckin loser.

    groomed for 40 years

    manages to be the first single term POTUS since GHW Bush..

    with a pandemic.

    figured he'd handle it, and his approval would go through the roof.

    LOL nope.

    instead FB and twitter ban his orange ass. ""