its not voicing your opinion, it's the fact that you're unwilling to examine it and where it comes from, that we know it comes from this shitty place, and you're saying it sprang forth ex fucking nihilo. that you're so resistant to fucking introspection and the very idea that you might not be perfect already, that you put all this effort into preserving the ways you suck.
if you're that fucking perfect, why even fucking try? its all already done, right? just waiting for the world to fall in line and... worship you? give you whatever you think you fucking deserve just by virtue of being you? fuck, why not wear a crown while you're at it?
but again, in a few hours I won't respect you enough to think you can or would ever want to do better and I'll look at all this trying to ask someone to be better, to want a better self and a better world and just anything better than this, and think "wtf did I take?"
What? No? I’m a product of my environment and I’m only who I am because of intense pressure from forces outside of my conception, the material conditions I was raised in, etc.
great! now, are you going to argue that you're not currently in/definitely from a deeeeeeeply misogynist shit hole that uses the gender divide to extract free labor and dehumanize both classes of people to one another in that weird freaky fetishizing way that keeps reproduction going but still keeps people of differing genders alienated from one another that capitalists do so love to build on the bones of any haunted (traditional (deeply problematic in varying ways from culture to culture depending on previous system of oppression) gender hierarchies) burial ground they can get their hands on?
If it gets you to stop harassing me at this point sure. I’ll say whatever you want. You don’t have to explain stuff is such a demeaning way. I mean if you really want me to understand instead of just using me a a lightning rod for your revolutionary passions.
dude. read your responses here, from this whole conversation, back to yourself. look at the way you phrased them. look at the arguments you're making. ask yourself, be honest (you not me, dont even tell me the answer you come to) where and who you think talks like that?
Look, I’ve already told the mods to ban me and remove my comments. I won’t make another account and I’ll just fuck off like you and everyone else in this thread wants.
the request is to be better. why is THIS THING something you can't examine? something that can't have seeped in and be a product of the bullshit misogyny all around you?
did you feel this strongly yesterday? that's usually a good indicator of whether an emotion has a reactionary component. again; the answer is for you, not for me.
so you're a product of your environment. but you can't be misogynist. because...???
your environment wasn't one that would have nurtured that? slipped it into every crack and crevice in midly homoerotic ways you wouldn't find so damn offensive or scary or gross if it didn't al so link them to homophobia and transphobia and entitlement and the whole shit-show of race and the idea that if someone touches ur butt ur less,(and you know queer people are fine and whatever but it still scares you and makes you think you might be less when someone things you might be one, so you gotta clarify) and also why is it HOMOerotic for your god damn environment to be doing this? does that maybe say something about who fucking created the conditions of society at present and the associations in your head about power?
im not trying to prove this to an audience; I don't think anybody's fucking reading this but you and me and the mods who will obviously show up at your house at 2 AM (wait what time zone are you? shit, whatever, next one) and take you off to the fucking gulag. had a nice CHUD-wank to the auto-snuff persecution fantasy yet? want me to add in some more detail? maybe "the grit of their boots as they cross the threshhold to your home grinds against the doorframe in a grim foreshadowing of..."?
okay I fucking hate the idea of mods and cops but if it helps get you off, I will, no shit, buy someone a pair of heavy boots. this is a joke, but im dead serious. give me a shipping address and a shoe size. sober me is gonna be pissed but knows she would have spent it on wire and junk electronic components anyway.
its not voicing your opinion, it's the fact that you're unwilling to examine it and where it comes from, that we know it comes from this shitty place, and you're saying it sprang forth ex fucking nihilo. that you're so resistant to fucking introspection and the very idea that you might not be perfect already, that you put all this effort into preserving the ways you suck.
if you're that fucking perfect, why even fucking try? its all already done, right? just waiting for the world to fall in line and... worship you? give you whatever you think you fucking deserve just by virtue of being you? fuck, why not wear a crown while you're at it?
but again, in a few hours I won't respect you enough to think you can or would ever want to do better and I'll look at all this trying to ask someone to be better, to want a better self and a better world and just anything better than this, and think "wtf did I take?"
I’m just me.
okay. and that's some essential thing, entirely separate from your environment?
What? No? I’m a product of my environment and I’m only who I am because of intense pressure from forces outside of my conception, the material conditions I was raised in, etc.
great! now, are you going to argue that you're not currently in/definitely from a deeeeeeeply misogynist shit hole that uses the gender divide to extract free labor and dehumanize both classes of people to one another in that weird freaky fetishizing way that keeps reproduction going but still keeps people of differing genders alienated from one another that capitalists do so love to build on the bones of any haunted (traditional (deeply problematic in varying ways from culture to culture depending on previous system of oppression) gender hierarchies) burial ground they can get their hands on?
If it gets you to stop harassing me at this point sure. I’ll say whatever you want. You don’t have to explain stuff is such a demeaning way. I mean if you really want me to understand instead of just using me a a lightning rod for your revolutionary passions.
dude. read your responses here, from this whole conversation, back to yourself. look at the way you phrased them. look at the arguments you're making. ask yourself, be honest (you not me, dont even tell me the answer you come to) where and who you think talks like that?
and why?
Look, I’ve already told the mods to ban me and remove my comments. I won’t make another account and I’ll just fuck off like you and everyone else in this thread wants.
the request is to be better. why is THIS THING something you can't examine? something that can't have seeped in and be a product of the bullshit misogyny all around you?
did you feel this strongly yesterday? that's usually a good indicator of whether an emotion has a reactionary component. again; the answer is for you, not for me.
so you're a product of your environment. but you can't be misogynist. because...???
your environment wasn't one that would have nurtured that? slipped it into every crack and crevice in midly homoerotic ways you wouldn't find so damn offensive or scary or gross if it didn't al so link them to homophobia and transphobia and entitlement and the whole shit-show of race and the idea that if someone touches ur butt ur less,(and you know queer people are fine and whatever but it still scares you and makes you think you might be less when someone things you might be one, so you gotta clarify) and also why is it HOMOerotic for your god damn environment to be doing this? does that maybe say something about who fucking created the conditions of society at present and the associations in your head about power?
im not trying to prove this to an audience; I don't think anybody's fucking reading this but you and me and the mods who will obviously show up at your house at 2 AM (wait what time zone are you? shit, whatever, next one) and take you off to the fucking gulag. had a nice CHUD-wank to the auto-snuff persecution fantasy yet? want me to add in some more detail? maybe "the grit of their boots as they cross the threshhold to your home grinds against the doorframe in a grim foreshadowing of..."?
okay I fucking hate the idea of mods and cops but if it helps get you off, I will, no shit, buy someone a pair of heavy boots. this is a joke, but im dead serious. give me a shipping address and a shoe size. sober me is gonna be pissed but knows she would have spent it on wire and junk electronic components anyway.