Just so everyone knows, they did lead a peaceful march a few years back and the Israelis shot thousands and thousands of them.
And Israel lost no legitimacy over it, the international media either treated it as business like usual, those rowdy middle easterners just failing to get along, or straight up told Palestinians that they had no right to protest like that and that every single civilian was actually either a willing or stupid human shield for cloaked hamas agents, there to attack the IDF.
The first headline I came across about this was something along the lines of "here's how the Palestine situation helps Putin"
These doorknobs don't care
They somehow think they'll be the ones to come up with a workable solution for this which doesn't involve violence, while some of them even acknowledge that the US establishment is completely backing Israel and completely fine with Palestine being wiped out of existence
Head empty
Can someone link more info on this for my uninformed ass? “Palestine peace march” is not giving many useful results rn due to the recent events
peaceful march
They tried that, Israel mowed them down en masse, it didn't lose an ounce of legitimacy in the eyes of
I wonder if there is some kind of socio-economic forces that are the driving reasons behind the world hegemon supporting the fascist state of isn'treal?
The Palestinians should offer themselves to the butcher's knife. They should throw themselves into the sea from cliffs. It would arouse the world and the people of Israel.
Gandhi, twitter, 2023
Beat me to it. Easy to say other people should just lay down and die I guess.
he meant himself/Indians as well -- he was that idealistic and had that poor of a understanding of why his protests worked in India. MLK was all around the much better political leader, down to reassessing his view on nonviolence.
Yeah I guess I was being slightly unfair, still this kind of sentiment also feels like it's the best libs have to offer to Palestinians especially at this point and they absolutely aren't walking the walk themselves.
nah, it's justified. I was just clarifying who he meant when he said that. the people quoting that are not in any way putting themselves in harm's way and moreover they're quoting someone with dogshit politics.
For context, here’s the original quote:
An actual Holocaust reference
Hitler killed five million [sic] Jews. It is the greatest crime of our time. But the Jews should have offered themselves to the butcher’s knife. They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs.....It would have aroused the world and the people of Germany.... As it is they succumbed anyway in their millions.
— Mahatma Gandhi, June 1946
Yes, imagine...
Although this year’s event passed by without any violence, Land Day in Gaza in past years has erupted in clashes at the border fence with Israel
In 2018, Palestinians in Gaza used the day to begin a series of mass protests dubbed the Great March of Return, which lasted two years.
The protests saw major bloodshed with more than 260 Palestinians killed, mostly by Israeli sniper fire.
Nearly 7,000 others were shot and wounded, according to Gaza’s health ministry.
Also, post the link you coward!
unarmed children getting hit from 300 meters. IOF snipers were having competitions to see how many Palestinian knees they could destroy, just intentionally maiming people
'42 Knees in One Day': Israeli Snipers Open Up About Shooting Gaza Protesters
EDIT: replaced paywalled Haaretz with archive link
I knew that the IDF has a pre-set kill limit. Knowing that, I sent waves and waves of unarmed women and children at the Israelis until they exceeded their limit and shut down.
If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cardsCheckmate
THEY ALREADY DID THAT YOU FUCKING MORON
They got shot, killed and injured by the IDF
Anyway slava palestine, slava to the martyrs
“Just line up against the mass graves so the fascists can kill you easily” is quite the take from libs
They literally did the "lie down and pretend to be dead and let them arrest you" "protest" during the George Floyd stuff. Liberal ideology has no room for effective political action.
radliberalism is a disease and a potentially fatal one that will get you killed doing stupid pointless symbolic horseshit
the Nazis out of power after marching to Auschwitz voluntarily
Imagine thinking liberals would care about 100,000 civilians being massacred if they fail the
testI still can't believe I've seen this exact conversation play on this site of all places.
They'd be cut down like field mice under a roto tiller, but at least it would do nothing
It would do something. The white moderates get there peace in place of having to witness justice.
There is nothing more privileged than these clowns who think wars can be won peacefully.
What about that time Yeltsin gave his congress a pepsi and then the USSR dissolved peacefully?
Not pictured: peaceful dissolving causing losses comparable to WW2.
The conflict of Yeltsin vs congress/the supreme soviet (1993) happened years after the attempted military coup that caused the collapse of the Union (1991). Yeltsin and the supreme Soviet were on the same side of the barricades back in 1991.
They already tried that in 2018 and it got them shot by israelis. Also didnt israel killed their own pm (who himself is still fucking brutal and did war crimes) who tried some sort of compromise that heavily favors israel?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Yitzhak_Rabin
The perpetrator was Yigal Amir, a 25-year-old former Hesder student and far-right law student at Bar-Ilan University. Amir had strenuously opposed Rabin's peace initiative, particularly the signing of the Oslo Accords, because he felt that an Israeli withdrawal from the West Bank would deny Jews their "biblical heritage which they had reclaimed by establishing settlements". Amir had come to believe that Rabin was a rodef, meaning a "pursuer" who endangered Jewish lives. The concept of din rodef ("law of the pursuer") is a part of traditional Jewish law. Amir believed he would be justified under din rodef in removing Rabin as a threat to Jews in the territories.[15]
for that
