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  • JoeySteel [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    WTC7 didn't kill himself

    I would question the suitability of a partner of anyone who looked at what happened on 9/11 and went "yeah that's legit"

    I like the Corbet reports 5 min video on all the shit you have to ignore to take that view

    Also the fact that Project for a New American Century (the guys that got Bush into power) only a few years before called for a "new pearl harbour" and a "catastrophic and catalysing event for USA to dominate the next century")

    The threat posed by US terrorism to the security of nations and individuals was outlined in prophetic detail in a document written more than two years ago and disclosed only recently. What was needed for America to dominate much of humanity and the world's resources, it said, was "some catastrophic and catalysing event - like a new Pearl Harbor".

    John Pilger reveals the American plan: a new Pearl Harbour

    On the last 9/11 anniversary I went back and rewatched The New Pearl Harbour. It's a relentless 5 hour documentary piling up all of the evidence at the time. The firefighters that testified to hearing controlled demolition explosives going off when they were attempting rescues/demolition experts explaining how buildings can't fall at freefall speed (because the floor beneath slows the speed of the fall unless it has been exploded at the same time)

    You have to be one naive, dumb son of a bitch to believe anything but it was a false flag by the national security apparatus and an attack on their own people to bring about the hellworld the boys from Project of a New American Century wanted

    • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      The biggest problem there is that natsec ghouls are just really, really, mindboggingly stupid and barely able to do more than throw guns and money at the worst people they can find in a country they don't like. They're vicious monsters and entirely morally and psychologically able to want to do something like that, but if they'd tried to actually carry out something so complicated with so many points of failure it would have either blown up in their face or come out immediately.

      Even when it comes to things they're good at (death squads, drug smuggling, funneling money and weapons to fascist militants, targeting activists for persecution or assassination, etc) they're shit at keeping it secret and only get away with it because of the massive institutional support they have and because all of those things are acceptable to the American ruling class. Wiping out a bunch of white collar workers and traumatizing an entire city that's home to a large chunk of the American bourgeoisie isn't exactly the sort of thing that gets them glowing opeds in the NYT praising them for training hErOiC fReEdOm FiGhTeRs like that scrappy young Saudi noble who's taking the fight to the Soviets in Afganistan, whatever his name was.

      • JoeySteel [comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        I mean....It did come out immediately

        A lot of this stuff was mainstream knowledge at the time. You got WTC7 collapsing for no reason, missing plane engines in the Pentagon that hit the side of the Pentagon that was investigating 2.7 trillion USD missing (lol)

        You got all the firefighters that testified to hearing controlled demolition explosives as they were going into rescue (who signed documents testifying to this as most of them are dead from types of cancer they got in the rescue now)

        Controlled demolition experts testifying that there's no way a building can fall at free fall speed (because the floor beneath it slows the speed of a building collapse) and that what you see in the towers collapsing is controlled demolition

        Awful saudi pilots doing perfect 270 degree turns in a jumbo jet that most professional pilots with years under their belt were unable to recreate

        And like all the invasions, death squads, drug smuggling and weapons to fascist militias or jihadis they don't even really bother to cover it up.

        It's all there you can go read about it. The problem is it's not on mainstream news so is on fringe outlets that have integrity that only a handful of people read.

        What they've successfully done though is give their population brainworms by popularising "conspiracy theory" and for their population to have a reaction to it like Pavlovs dog (where you ring a bell before feeding a dog and after a while when you ring the bell they start to salivate). They just say "conspiracy theory" and the population has that reaction despite the absolute mountains of evidence against it.

        • AdamSandler [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          They’ve pretty much gaslighted the public into believing that conspiracy theories are wrong by default.

    • space_comrade [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Honestly I'm not sure about the controlled demolition theory. The amount of coordination that would require is pretty big, I don't think you could keep that a secret really.

      Also what's the point of killing WTC 7 too? Wouldn't the two biggest buildings be enough? Also that video doesn't really look like any controlled demolition I've seen.

      I mean there's definitely a lot of shady shit about the official story but I don't think they blew it up themselves.

      • AdamSandler [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Well, we do know sniffer dogs were removed from the building in the days leading up to the attacks. We also know that buildings only collapse in their own footprint in controlled demolition. Comparing damage to the Empire State Building from a previous plane crash and the plane hitting the towers, we should be able to see that a plane alone cannot take down a building.

        As for Building 7, it was being used as the FOC for 9/11. That was where all the planning and data shit went down. It was demolished because it contained too much evidence and taking it out would be the perfect way to ensure no one could figure out what happened. And it wasn’t kept a secret. I’ve interviewed former CIA members in private about the events of 9/11. One of them was one of the people who staffed Building 7. He told me all about how they planned the escape in advance.

        • space_comrade [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          I'll be honest my dude, that sounds like a bunch of conspiracy theory nonsense that I honestly have no chance of verifying for myself.

          We also know that buildings only collapse in their own footprint in controlled demolition. Comparing damage to the Empire State Building from a previous plane crash and the plane hitting the towers, we should be able to see that a plane alone cannot take down a building.

          Do we know that? I sure as shit can't really know that for sure. Are you a civil engineer / architect yourself or are you just repeating what other people said?

      • Audeamus [any]
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        3 years ago

        Seconded. Corbett believes in nothing, has no integrity. He's nerdy Alex Jones.