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  • Audeamus [any]
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    4 years ago

    That plot idea (exactly as you described it) is good - but the execution was terrible. (SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS below).

    A) Holdo's plan was secret for no reason. Star Wars canon is for the good guys to tell each other everything - omissions being poorly hidden exceptions. Betrayal isn't sudden - it's telegraphed. The Rebellion/Resistance is democratic, there's no rigid hierarchy or air of suspicion.

    Tension between characters has to be justified to feel real. It's always a hack-writer move when the problem would have been resolved if characters just talked to each other, but didn't, for no reason.

    B) The plan was shit. Most people died. The rest were only saved by a deus ex machina. At least discussing alternatives would have made sense.

    C) Poe isn't actually punished for the mutiny and disaster he caused. Holdo and Leia amiably joke how they like him despite him disobeying orders twice and fucking up. WTF is that? Fire the hero or promote him. If it's something in between it's not worth making a movie about it.

    The plot loses its cake and fails to eat it, too. Poe makes a mistake, but doesn't suffer for it. He's an ass, but it's fine. What kind of hero, what kind of story is that?

    • ant9 [he/him,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Holdo’s plan was secret for no reason

      They stated outright that the empire (first order, whatever) had either a spy or some sort of new tracking technology.

      The plan was shit

      Because the movie is shit. It's a low speed chase you aren't salvaging that unless it's the opening to a movie about OJ.

      • Audeamus [any]
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        4 years ago

        They stated outright that the empire (first order, whatever) had either a spy or some sort of new tracking technology.

        But there is no spy. And Poe is never suspected of being a spy. So it's a contrivance. If you don't know how your enemy is tracking you, then you can't assume that you'll be able to hide from them, no matter your precautions. You either find out how you're being tracked, or you plan to act openly.

        It's way too subtle a reason to sow distrust between characters in a Star Wars film. If it were a drama about a WWII submarine, then one wrong look on a face brought on by the stress of war could cause everyone to shoot each other dead. But when your characters fire off perky quips between slaughtering cartoon enemies with colorful lasers it doesn't fit.

        Because the movie is shit

        Yes. But in part as well as in whole.