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  • FuckyWucky [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    It is very coordinated. There are Israeli state funded ads being run on youtube about how evil Palestinians are.

  • Koa_lala [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Israel literally pays people to shitpost on reddit.

    • loathsome dongeater@lemmygrad.ml
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      1 year ago

      They used to have an app called Act.il where it would tell you where Israel related discussion was happening on social media so you could go shill for them. It has a ad for it on youtube featuring hot, scantily clad women which given the context is very strange.

      Israel in general just knows information warfare, cyber warfare, genocide.

  • heartheartbreak [fae/faer]
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    1 year ago

    It was pretty obvious that the Ukraine Russia Conflict was promoted by a highly coordinated propaganda push by the state department, which went largely unmentioned as a coordinated operation and succeeded in pretty much all aspects. I would assume that the same levers are being pulled in this conflict and we will see a similar level of true hegemony (in the control-over-discourse sense) exhibited by the west

    • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Yeah it's actually pretty impressive how much the west has upped it's propaganda game in the past couple decades, from a machiavellian point of view. They've got everyone marching in lock-step. I think one thing that makes it so effective is that western propaganda doesn't just push 1 propaganda line, like the Soviets did. They have multiple (at least 3) competing narratives that contradict each other but create a spectacle that prevents any other dissent - they have the responsible hall monitor fact checker lib narrative (the NYT/WaPo channel), they have the reactionary oinking chud narrative (FOX, Epoch Times, Radio Free X, etc) & they have the controlled badjacketed outsider narrative. It would be some incoherent weirdo crank touching on certain good and correct points that everyone else avoids, and then combining that with out of left-field reactionary or non-sensical ideas (RFK Jr, Tucker Carlson, Ron Paul, Glenn Greenwald, Marianne Williamson, Elon Musk, Cornel West, etc).

      These 3 narratives interweave and combine and just suffocate out everything else. There's a synthetic dialectic between the fact checkers and the chuds where they slam into each other and collide and scream at each other online, but nothing is actually moving or changing or connected to anything. They are playing a game basically.

      • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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        1 year ago

        That’s something I noticed as well. Best example of this is literally any Joe Biden Twitter post on the matter: Brandon claiming he is Israel’s number one fan, Chuds in the comments section pissing themselves over him unfreezing Iranian assets (as if a military operation like this could take only one month to prepare, with a fucking blockade and all) and how their Big Wet Boy would wave a magic wand and never allow this to happen (plus the Indian RSS detachment backing them up), and then a smaller segment of people posting lukewarm centrist takes that don’t even mention the other party and are so vague it may as well not been there. It looks really weird since this dynamic actually doesn’t block out entirely the upvoted comments mentioning Palestinian statistics or even outright unrestrained pro-Palestine sentiment. But the former three nonetheless have managed to wrangle the narrative because there’s just enough friction and energy to make it look like it’s the entire breadth of the discourse. And thus, Israel’s righteousness is presumed when the uninitiated gets curious and scrolls down.

        People like to post a lot that joke about the Soviet ambassador looking at all the major news stations on TV and then turning to the Americans, who assume he’s going to be awed by the competing perspectives, and asking “why do they essentially all say the same thing?” but there’s something more insidiously effective underneath the surface about the way Western media works that that joke touches the tip of the iceberg.

    • Sandinband [any, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      I also think people were more willing to support when they thought there was no real chance of Palestine defending itself. People love an underdog but when Palestine returns a fraction of what Israel has done for decades, its framed as the unreasonable arrestor

    • Cummunism [they/them, he/him]
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      1 year ago

      yea the only people ive seen libbing out for Israel have been people who definitely havent read the words of any revolutionary, and thought the US civil rights movement was 100% peaceful.

      • FishLake@lemmygrad.ml
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        1 year ago

        Same people who comment “get rekked” on videos of Russian teenagers being droned in Ukraine corn fields probably.

      • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        and thought the US civil rights movement was 100% peaceful.

        This is an extremely dangerous bit of propaganda. It gets drunmed into people's heads starting with kindergarten. At least they did when i was a kid.

  • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Israel was warned about this attack from Hamas multiple times, Egypt said they warned Israel themselves multiple times and other intel agencies also were doing so. Netanyahu apparently just acted like he didn't care and ignored it, focusing on the West Bank.

    Then Israel gets caught "unawares" and completely shits the bed militarily, complete embarrassment that I think even Israel didn't expect when they were gonna let a little false flag slip by to rally up the chuds. They certainly had the false flag media portion all lined up and ready to go though, narrative was under control within minutes everywhere online almost universally outside of ML spaces

      • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Huh let’s put this rave full of half naked drugged up settlers within 500m of the Gaza fence. What could go wrong?

        The company running the rave apparently has Israeli MIC connections, but tbh probably like 90% of Israel does it’s a military state. Feeling very 👁️

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    It does seem more punctual and focused than usual, more tightly bundled and pre-prepared as a media response than it used to be.

  • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]M
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    1 year ago

    David Muir apparently jumped on a plane the second this shit happened so he can film a nice sob story interview with an IDF troop who got his leg blown off and have it ready to air Monday night. These motherfuckers are absolutely shameless.

    The social media platforms have been expanding their role in collaborating with state censorship ever since the George Floyd uprising. This expanded with the outbreak of the war in Ukraine, and has become routine by this point.

  • Infamousblt [any]
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    1 year ago

    It feels like the war machine is already spun up over the Russia/Ukraine stuff so it was really easy for it to just immediately pivot to this

  • TheLastHero [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    They don't have to have known about the flood operation to make Zionist propaganda. Israel is always making Zionist propaganda, they have pushes already ready to go on short notice just in case they have to massacre a few dozen people. I'm sure some contingency plans were activated this week some people are just working overtime.

  • shath [comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    there are youtube ads about israel and how hard they're going to punish palestine what the fuck do you think

  • CloutAtlas [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    I literally just found a random wild one while browsing the only good subreddit, TrueAnon https://reddit.com/u/ReadItOrNah/s/cuuoJzmexY

    Stalking a TrueAnon poster from r/worldnews into r/TrueAnon to copy and paste a message they had prepared calling them out for being a "troll" for pointing out that "Hamas is killing infants" is unsubstantiated and is just the recycled Nayirah testimony.