• Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      9 months ago

      Would have been way more punk to make those mini encounters "Gang Fights" or something, with the NCPD being just another gang.

      Major disconnect since they make the NCPD a bunch of corrupt assholes that basicly run a protection racket but then you do gigs for them like you're on Uber Cop.

      • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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        9 months ago

        I've said it before, but I think the NCPD subcontractor thing was come up with as just a narrative device to diegetically explain flagging miniature world events/quests in your hud that got implemented and then wasn't really thought about after that, because there are lots of them where they really don't make sense to be a police bounty contract. Like there are several flagged encounters that are corporate security forces who just executed one or more people (and you get a payout from the system for killing the licensed security forces who were acting lawfully as far as the hellworld's system is concerned), in at least one case there's a gang that was tipped off by the police themselves about a detective's CI, etc all being folded into that system.

  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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    9 months ago

    I thought this was making fun of those alleged notes found in manufactured goods from China. But yeah, good chance CDPR meant it unironically.

    • citrussy_capybara [ze/hir]
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      9 months ago

      Was written by a CDPR dev during crunch that was tied to a desk, then a manager found out and swapped a couple words out.

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    9 months ago

    DAE BOTH SIDES BAD. That is why you should stop trying to improve society somewhat and instead Become A Legend Of Night City(tm) so-true

    • Gosplan14_the_Third [none/use name]
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      9 months ago

      Cyberpunk (the Genre), 1988: "Capitalism and rapid progress in technology are driving us to a dystopian society"

      Cyberpunk, 2023: Whoa cool neon lights

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        9 months ago

        Cyberpunk, 2023: Whoa cool neon lights

        Also 2023: "Behold! I am financing the construction of the Torment Nexus, as seen in the hit novel Please Don't Build The Torment Nexus!" lord-bezos-amused

    • Vode An@lemmy.ml
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      9 months ago

      You can tell that wiki entry was written by an anti communist. A brainworm wriggled out of my phone and is currently trying to crawl into my eye.

      • Grimble [he/him,they/them]
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        9 months ago

        It's always Polish writers with an adolescent knowledge of social studies who try to break the fourth wall and explain why communism is wrong in lore for media that otherwise barely relates to communism

          • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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            9 months ago

            I don't know how, but that was deliberate. The US and EU used the trade union "Solidarity" as a wedge to draw working class people away from the PZPR (Poland's communist party).

            It didn't help that Poland's communist leadership wasn't the best, but also they were under a lot of pressure they couldn't resist. They didn't really have the wealth or manpower compared to other socialist states. Poland was one of the first successful test subjects for how to uproot leftism using neoliberalism and it scrambled the Polish population's brains I guess.

            • Vncredleader [he/him]
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              9 months ago

              Its always funny how much of that bad leadership came from people who wanted to show off their Polish nationalism bona fides. Like it was specifically the ones who wanted to first show they are nothing like the government Stalin helped form, and then wanted to show they are nothing like the Khrushchevite supported government and they will go their own path.

              Each era was a nationalistic response to the previous one

            • alunyanneгs 🏳️‍⚧️♀️@lemmygrad.ml
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              9 months ago

              Idk maybe there’s a ton of commie Polish youth, but it seems like most of them end up emigrating to England for whatever reason.

              They do it because Poland is insanely hostile against even the slightest form of left-wing thought, while bend all the way backwards for reactionary and fascist nonsense.

      • TheWorldSpins [any, undecided]
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        9 months ago

        For real? Just seemed like alt-history lore delving, but I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed. shrek

        I hate gamers.

  • lurkerlady [she/her]
    hexagon
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    9 months ago

    tbf if youre reading anything from the nusa you probably should be put in a work camp, its america but worse somehow

    • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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      9 months ago

      its america but worse somehow

      Counterpoint: it's a balkanized failed state that's lost ground to all of its neighbors. It's worse inside but it's lost the ability to be nearly as bad as the real USA.

      Which is what makes this so funny: in Cyberpunk's setting the US ate absolute shit and collapsed while the USSR became a tepid liberal social democracy instead of being couped by Yeltsin, so the shard only makes sense as a prank like when dipshits try to write notes about "forced labor" in chinese and pretend they found them in a shoebox that actually came from Bangladesh or the like. It was probably snuck in by some chud writer, because there seems to have been little to no oversight to consistency with all the little random text blurbs scattered throughout the game, but it does make no sense in context: the NUSA's a failed state and the USSR is liberal.

      Wait, fuck, what kind of "books" would come from a dying ancap state and get someone life in prison in a functional state? It suddenly makes sense if one assumes they were importing libertarian-alert XBDs or the like.

      • FuckyWucky [none/use name]
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        9 months ago

        Yea the game politics is all over the place. I'm happy that the NUSA President turned out not to be a good person.

        • ProfessorAdonisCnut [he/him]
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          9 months ago

          Still weird to me that you never seemed to be able to take a "NC is independent, whose president do you think you are here?" line.

        • Moonguide@lemmy.ml
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          9 months ago

          Yeah. Like, Johnny had some good points all throughout the game. V even was a victim of corpo supreme power (sure he stole the tech and put it in his noggin, but still). Yet V defends the status quo mocking Johnny's anticapitalist thought in many convos. Wish V was less lib. Of all people, he has a good reason to hate the status quo.

          • Deadend [he/him]
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            9 months ago

            Johnny is not anti-capital, he’s a selfish dick who hurts and wants to hurt the world. He just likes the big targets like corps.

            • Moonguide@lemmy.ml
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              9 months ago

              Yeah, maybe, but he still got a couple good points. And V has nothing but lib takes.

              • KarlBarqs [he/him, they/them]
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                9 months ago

                Johnny doesn't have points, he has tepid, baby's first anticapitalism talking points. He rants about how capitalism bad, corporations bad, but it doesn't go deeper than that.

            • TraumaDumpling
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              9 months ago

              that's just not true, sure his major act of adventurism was largely motivated by his girlfriend issues, but he constantly rants about how he saw corporations take peoples land and kidnap child soldiers and how his main goal is to defeat the corporations more than anything else like survival or wealth or fame or whatever. like sure maybe he needs to read theory but calling him "a selfish dick who hurts and wants to hurt the world" is the lamest possible take i could expect to see on a leftist website lol. i wish more 'selfish dicks' like him would nuke more corporate offices.

      • lurkerlady [she/her]
        hexagon
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        9 months ago

        spoiler for the dlc

        spoiler

        technically they are threatening the whole world with a wmd that would kill anyone using cybernetics, so actually worse than threatening people with nukes and bombs because its essentially an instant professor x aneurysm

  • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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    9 months ago

    I keep hearing conservatism is the new punk and it's making the liberals nervous shapiro-poplar

    • lurkerlady [she/her]
      hexagon
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      9 months ago

      the writing is all over the place on the USSR. they have stuff like this but also mention they have actual good food and healthcare. they do also have plenty of ACAB mixed in with you fellating a president no matter what option you choose, even though johnny calls her a fascist you cant just agree with him

    • Nacktmull@lemm.ee
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      8 months ago

      Not surprising at all though. When I went to Poland, I found that a lot of polish people feel a deep disapproval towards Russia and Communism, based on the bad time they (or at least their parents) had, during the russian occupation of Poland.

  • Utter_Karate [he/him, comrade/them]
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    9 months ago

    This sounds like Russian propaganda to me. Believing that things are actually bad in the fictional version of Poland presented in a few scattered text files in the game Cyberpunk 2077 would be playing right into Putler's hands. People who actually listen to both sides and are able to see through the Russian troll bots understand that things in pretend future Poland are actually going pretty well. They are a democracy and a part of the international rules based order.

  • macabrett[they/them]@lemmy.ml
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    9 months ago

    I don't know if it helps, but I'm pretty positive the USSR in Cyberpunk is different than the real USSR. It also had communism collapse and is essentially run by an oil corporation (and then later by oligarchs).

    • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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      9 months ago

      i mean that's the usual way socialism is framed in capitalist media. "Whenever you try it, it's just capitalism, but worse!"

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        9 months ago

        "Socialism doesn't work because a small number of elites hoard resources and sabotage society to further their own self-interest." smuglord solidarity lord-bezos-amused

  • Łumało [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
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    9 months ago

    Ja pierdole co za żart, nienawidzę tej jednej dziury i każdego tępaka który nie zna naszej historii xD

    Kto to napisał i pomyślał że to świetny pomysł? xD

    Historyjek o Chinach się naczytał i myślał że PRL to jakieś Niemcy Nazistowskie?

    Kurwa mać.