Yeah for sure, I think that's one aspect - you can't just say anyone above this level is a man, anyone under is a woman. There's also the observation that for T levels as well as a whole bunch of other metrics like height/weight/etc, the AVERAGE difference between a cis man and a cis woman is way smaller than the spread of differences within the gender. I also thought the point about endogenous T levels NOT being correlated to athletic performance was super interesting - it seems like your body's baseline T level is just a 0 point, and if you do something to increase from your baseline, athletic performance improves, but there are still cis men with T levels 80x lower than other cis men but who are still competing at an elite level, because that 0 point is just different but it doesn't mean that one has an advantage over the other. So all this talk about gendering people based on T level is just nonsense based on a faulty premise that a higher baseline is an inherent advantage, which it isn't.
I guess a better way to frame it in my mind is "endogenous Testosterone doesn't give an advantage like anabolic steroids do, at least as far as muscle development.
Yeah for sure, I think that's one aspect - you can't just say anyone above this level is a man, anyone under is a woman. There's also the observation that for T levels as well as a whole bunch of other metrics like height/weight/etc, the AVERAGE difference between a cis man and a cis woman is way smaller than the spread of differences within the gender. I also thought the point about endogenous T levels NOT being correlated to athletic performance was super interesting - it seems like your body's baseline T level is just a 0 point, and if you do something to increase from your baseline, athletic performance improves, but there are still cis men with T levels 80x lower than other cis men but who are still competing at an elite level, because that 0 point is just different but it doesn't mean that one has an advantage over the other. So all this talk about gendering people based on T level is just nonsense based on a faulty premise that a higher baseline is an inherent advantage, which it isn't.
I guess a better way to frame it in my mind is "endogenous Testosterone doesn't give an advantage like anabolic steroids do, at least as far as muscle development.