• GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    What could be more American than continuing to do a thing you only started really doing after 9/11 and then pretending we'd always done it.

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Flashbacks to AOC's tweet when she first started with all the homeless people that were paid $5 to wait in line by other representatives lobbyists.

        (She's since deleted the tweet)

        Also really cool how Vox is carrying water for an industry that is so insanely exploitative. They claim that "linestanding.com" charges $40/hr for services and never once questions how much of that is given to the people actually standing in line. Judging by the fact that they claim "entry level workers" (everyone I've seen in photos is older than 16 that's for sure) I'd assume probably minimum wage. So what's happening with that other $30?

          • star_wraith [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Yeah we've had to stand for the anthem at sporting events going back to at least when I was a little kid (I'm in my late 30s).

            • MichoganGayFrog [they/them]
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              3 years ago

              We had a national anthem at the start of every school day before the announcements but that pretty much was only elementary school. Didn't have to pledge allegiance to America, as a Canadian it's just implied.

              • star_wraith [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                We did too but I went to a religious school, so I just figured of course we did it.

                • MichoganGayFrog [they/them]
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                  3 years ago

                  We have a pretty short national anthem and it was usually instrumental so no biggie really

        • REallyN [she/her,they/them]
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          3 years ago

          I was pretty sure that had it's roots in the World War's and just continued after because of cold war patriotism, but I could be wrong.

        • maverick [they/them]
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          3 years ago

          Yes. Every single morning, ritual worship of a piece of stripey fabric. In 4th or 5th grade my teacher sent me to the principal's office because I didn't stand up for the pledge.

          • CoralMarks [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            I’m German, so this nationalism is so foreign every time I see it or hear about it. Very weird, especially how you are indoctrinated with it already at this young age. I couldn’t imagine that, although we have of course very good, obvious reasons here to be very wary of it.

            Good job btw! Did you get some punishment or anything for not obeying?

            • maverick [they/them]
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              3 years ago

              Yeah it's fucking weird to experience and I imagine it's even weirder to see as an outsider.

              Luckily it's apparently illegal for them to punish a student for not doing the pledge because my dad called the superintendent the next day and flipped shit at him lmao. Threatening to sue the school district and everything lol.