In my opinion, “the West” is (nearly) a synonym of “the imperial core”. I have met a lot of non-white people who live in “the West” and embody a lot of what I hate about “white people” (the selfishness, for example). My point is that apart from people who actively fight against it (most leftists, for example), people who live in the West in general adhere to, follow, promote, etc, Capitalist Ideology. This is less the case for those living in the Global South (in my experience).

  • sailorfish [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Eastern Europe I guess? The West (and esp "the imperial core") generally excludes eastern Europe (esp Russia), but eastern European countries are predominantly white

    • linux [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      Good point.

      Part of the difficulty is that both terms are constantly being defined and redefined. I remember somebody here predicted that in 100 years or so, some Hispanics could be deemed "white" people.

      I also remember reading about how Germans weren't considered "white" until the 1900s or so (not 100% sure about that, I may be misremembering).

      • Pezevenk [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I remember somebody here predicted that in 100 years or so, some Hispanics could be deemed “white” people.

        There is no such thing as a hispanic race. There are many white "hispanics". The people that most picture in their minds as "hispanic" are mestizos, but a very, very significant percentage of people living in many latam countries and who are still considered "hispanic" are not mestizos, they are just white, or black, or whatever. Americans get confused usually because Mexico is almost entirely mestizo and that's most of the latam people they know, but for instance Uruguay is almost 90% white people, and Argentina is also predominantly white Europeans.

        So the prediction is wrong because it is already the case.

      • sailorfish [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        Yes, both whiteness and "the West" are primarily political terms and who is counted varies. I think on the flip side, Japan is sometimes counted as Western.

        Sometimes I use westerners, sometimes white people, and sometimes just Anglos (when talking about monolingual English speakers). For me each term covers a slightly different (though overlapping) group of people/idea