Someone commented that "we're shooting past clean wehrmacht, past the recent innovation of clean SS and all the way straight to clean Hitler."
[edit] OK, I'll just say it - over 30k and counting. "You are like Hitler if you don't want to genocide the Palestinians".
Didn't most Holocaust victims die in the ghettos and not the camps? Like I swear I legitimately heard this during Hillel events. It's not really secretive if it's in the middle of the city.
I'm having a whole lot of trouble finding specific numbers on that one. The only thing I know off my head is that Adolf Eichmann (Nazi scum who organized the holocaust) in Hannah Arendt's book gave a number something like 4 million in the camps, 2 million through other murders. That total probably doesn't included executed prisoners of war, who were around 5 million, and probably doesn't include the (i think) 1.3 million Soviet Jews killed through invasion. A little over one million were killed at Auschwitz II–Birkenau alone by most accounts.
You're right that Nazis didn't exactly hide their murders. The only thing you could say is they started doing it faster after around 1942, which is when the war started falling out of Germany's favor. That's when they started doing stuff like burning documents too. If I had to guess the Nazis were probably covering their tracks out of a belief they might get captured by Soviets and hanged
Unless Eichmann's estimate is higher than the modern one, Jews killed in the USSR by the Nazis or their collaborators for being Jewish are counted as part of the Holocaust conventionally, and ~1 million is the common number for that toll.
I'm sure soon enough it will be decided that that wasn't part of the holocaust just some wholesome anti soviet nationalism
thinking they might get in trouble for the mass murder was not an unfounded concern
Most victims of the holocaust weren't even Jewish but God fucking help you if you go around saying that out loud.