If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse, and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality. - Desmond Tutu
It really is that simple folks. Any both-sidesism, well-actualling, or fence-sitting as it relates to Israel and Palestine is simple moral cowardice. Anything less than full-throated support for Palestinian liberation and denunciation of Israel apartheid and murder is de facto support for Israel.
Liberals love to talk about nuance and how actually issues are very complex because they don't have principles; they have positions that can be changed at any moment according to their convenience. They pretend that not taking a stand is a sign of their intelligence, maturity and objectivity. In actuality they are as cowardly and vicious as the most rabid neocon. Their hands are drenched in blood.
Sorry, just had to vent. The last week has been a real blackpill for me, even as someone who lived through the hysteria of 9/11. Death to America. Death to Israel. Death to the West.
the obsession with graphically discussing the specific case of dead israeli babies is melting my fucking brain.
Same fucking tactic that birth-forcers use. Same fucking tactic the last round of the US' War of Terror used, and the one before that
The last three years have taught me that a lot of people I thought I could trust would gladly send me off to my death if it meant their lives would be fine
Fuck 'em
Yup. I'm basically going dark politically from now on. I'll come here and get my fill, but we aren't winning this thing. I'm exhausted enough just trying to exist in this capitalist hellhole without having to live in a militarized country where I have to watch for bombs just going to the store.
It's been rough but I've kept my mouth shut, luckily no one's brought this shit up to me.
The only person that brought it up to me was a guy at work who I didn't expect to have a good take, but he did. Another coworker asked what was going on because she doesn't watch TV or read the news and I told her she was better off that way. I gave her the cliffnotes though
Any amount of it. Every time it looks like maybe people are coming around, something happens to reset everyone's libness.
sounds like you believe in metaphysics a little more than you realize
It's getting very annoying seeing even people who don't do this both sides-ing usually, to preemptively say "we condemn civilian casualities" and implying that Hamas is going around executing random people for no reason, which of course there is no evidence of. Like the Citations Needed guys just said that Hamas was killing children or something like that. Like wtf. Like the racism is so ingrained they see a militant Muslim organization and immediately go like "yeah they're probably evil baby killing maniacs".
Where are people even getting this stuff from, other than racist stereotypes that have been cultivated by Western media over the last century?
I truly feel like the left is just as dead in the mainstream as it was when Michael Moore got booed off stage at the Oscars in 2003. Any progress since then has been a mirage. We are fucking cooked
Too many people haven't killed their inner settler. When push comes to shove, they still hate an oppressed person who doesn't let their oppressor destroy them.
Nobody wants to do self work anymore!!
Seriously though. There is a kind of "leftist" that has the right opinions, but are basically brunch liberals. If it personally inconveniences them or they have to do any amount of research, they get as far as the propaganda and stop.
I admit. When this started happening, I only knew the cliffnotes version from a leftist perspective. I'm learning a lot over the last week. But personal growth isn't for everyone.
All it takes for a lot of fair weather "leftists" to start goosestepping (or at least to wave cordially at the goosesteppers) is for them to feel like their treats are threatened.
I love Citations Needed, but sometimes I feel like they are overly careful with the things they say in order to not scare away curious liberals.
I enjoy them as well, but I have always considered them "what NPR should actually be like".
That and at the end of the day they still want to get paid from people's Visa cards.
i am going extremely
watching hasan piker and ethan klein cover it. second thought is at least still having good takes.- Show
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Fuck Hasan for being so streamer brained he thinks that's a good idea. "Why don't I get this absolute dipshit reactionary comedian on to talk about Israeli genocide? That'll really bring in the views. Oh I'm so sad."
Death to streamers also
in a sea of bad coverage, he's giving full-throated support for palestine. he was talking to the dipshit because they already have a show they do together weekly, and said dipshit wanted to talk about it. death to streamers, sure, but this is probably one of the most prominent english-language voices doing wall-to-wall coverage of israeli war crimes.
he was talking to the dipshit because they already have a show they do together weekly, and said dipshit wanted to talk about it.
I'm proud to say I did not know this
it gets someone that's going to take a socialist lens to a bigger audience at least. the dipshit is unfortunately popular.
Watching the discourse get steered into the most pedantic corner is always so frustrating.
Israel has been occupying Palestine for 75 years, running a genocidal Apartheid fascist state. Gaza is just a concentration camp that gets bombed into rubble periodically. Over this time they've killed countless thousands of Palestinian children. But then I saw on TV Joe Brandon said 40 Israeli children were decapitated by those horrible Hamas guys, so I have no more sympathy. All dead children matter.
And now we all have to talk about this fucking tabloid ass story.
hasan's got the patience of a saint, literally started sobbing at one point over the overwhelming atrocities of the Israel state, and ethan is trying to both sides it, but has spent most of the time wanting to talk about dead babies.
No leftist podcast is going to have a good take because at the end of the day, they are all nerds that get paid 5X what I make to read the headlines and crack lame jokes. The amount of research they do first is basically non existent.
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NUANCE THAT'S WHAT WE FUCKING NEED MORE FUCKING NUANCE
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALiterally has never fucking helped any political cause ever. Unless they were ignoring something blatant and the "nuance" fixes it. Rarest hollywood-style outcome in history
libs treat nuance like a food group, you need 5 to 9 servings of nuance a day or you die of tankieitis
Very similar
were behind the "grey jedi" fad in the Star Wars fandom. They thought that the "balanced" way to use the Force was a carefully administered number of acts of cruelty and selfishness for their ego-insert characters. 
Disclaimer: I know the Jedi Order was magic cops that kidnapped and indoctrinated children; an actually nuanced version of the setting would have a lot more room for Force users that reject the Jedi/Sith entirely and don't just go Diet Sith to avoid unpleasant labels.
Sith are interesting because their code is actually not awful? If you avoid all connotations of what Sith actually are in media.
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.
There's room in that for a philosophy about self-actualization, liberation, and revolutionary action. But no, it's only antisocial edgelords. You can be that, or a magic cop.
I wasn't directly knocking the Sith, though in application throughout the lore the Sith apply the above code in Ayn Rand style ways and put others in chains and deny them their passions, deprive them of power, and enslave them.
The Sith code is too individualistic. I looked up the Jedi Code, and it doesn't have the "I." The Jedi Code can be interpreted as what is vs what ought to be or the individual vs society vs the universe.
If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse, and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality. - Desmond Tutu
Banger quote, banger post
Liberals love to talk about nuance in order to justify imperialism and capitalism. Any time nuance comes up in discussions like "not all Palestinians are Hamas" you get "well they voted for them" or "why don't they protest or leave?"
Just complete ignorance of geopolitics on any level. There are people with Phd's that don't really know everything going on over there, but 20 year old stoned redditors have this on lock?
Just complete ignorance of geopolitics on any level. There are people with Phd's that don't really know everything going on over there, but 20 year old stoned redditors have this on lock?
The nice thing about holding the hegemonic view is that you never have to put any real effort into defending it.
Yup, you just get to be "smart" to all your other ignorant friends and strangers on the internet. There is no ramifications for being wrong when everyone agrees with you
liberals were all maga from 2017-2020, I am very smart
(please suspend the fact of blue maga momentarily, just for the sake of this joke)
So one of the most anti-Trump, anti-GOP liberals I know is now posting clips of Charlie Kirk defending Israel and shit like “Hamas fucked around now they’ll find out” like wtf? What’s weird is he was posting pro-Israel stuff on his stories and I replied via private message and he got worse after that hardening his position and doubling down even though I asked him why he’s being indistinguishable from a MAGA type on this issue.
"It's nuanced" "It's a complicated situation" "no simple solutions" - they're all liberal handwaves to take the most reactionary position while sounding like the "adult in the room"
"The Adults In The Room will Make The Hard Decisions and Get Shit Done."
I'm deeply sick and tired of using the idea of a nuanced and complicated world as an justification for "stop caring, lol" which is what a lot of smuglords do with it.
I want somebody to comment on the metatext of this comic. As a newspaper comic, the comic would be in color on Sundays, and black and white the rest of the week. Sometimes Calvin & Hobbes's world is literally black and white, and sometimes it's in color.
Okay now somebody has done it.
nuance is helpful once you get into the actual nitty gritty of the details but it should be abstracted away for the broad position
nuance is nuanced it isn't always helpful or harmful
"it's too complicated so it's easier to just kill them all"
