:geordi-no: Daily dem soc struggle sessions

:geordi-yes: Talking about my undying affection of Tasha Yar and Kira

  • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    oh yeah berman was a monster in a lot of ways but i think the specifics of farrells firing was over compensation. not absolutely sure about that tho.

    also pissed he made 7 of 9 wear that outfit & corset, made kira wear that shit... etc. etc. just a bad fucking guy

    edit: maybe she wasnt fired & quit cuz they refused to do equality?

    • MichoganGayFrog [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      The DS9 documentary and several interviews with Ferrel and other cast members from conventions and stuff confirm it was Rick's treatment of her. He also tried to play hard ball and said things like without the show she'd be working at K-Mart when her contract negotiations were coming up. She asked to go from main cast to recurring character and appear in 6-10 episodes per season cause she couldn't be around Burman but liked everything else. He said she had to be all in or nothing so she walked. This may have been 'officially' over money according to Paramount/CBS but I really don't think that was any real part of it.

          • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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            3 years ago

            :sabo:

            they really dont lmao, i would expect some kinda solidarity with the coworkers tho (not like most the cast didnt have beef with berman geez)

            • MichoganGayFrog [they/them]
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              3 years ago

              From what I've heard the showrunner for DS9 )who overall seems like a very stand up dude and even did a self Crit section for the the DS9 doc he made a couple years back) wasn't aware until after the show had ended. He mostly worked with the writers and wasn't involved with things on set as much, but he was clearly upset at himself for letting it happen under his watch regardless. Also unfortunately he worked for the network, not for the show. Unless a Paramount CEO fired him there's not much that could be done and Rick Berman was making them a lot of money at the time. If it wasn't DS9 while it was first airing then fan pressure may have worked but star trek fans at the time hated DS9, a lot were gross sexist nerds themselves too. They even had Micheal Pillar right there who could just take over for Berman but corporation yay

              • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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                3 years ago

                i don't know what to think of hollywood unions; on the one hand cool shit like the writers guild strike, hilariously long grudges like the one against Elia Kazan

                but on the other hand support for Roman Polanski, horrific records against sexual harrasment... land of contrasts

                • MichoganGayFrog [they/them]
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                  3 years ago

                  They also make it hard where you need to be in a movie to be in SAG but to be hired for a movie you often also need to be in SAG

                  • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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                    3 years ago

                    i mean closed shops are cool and cooler still considering they're technically illegal; prolly sucks for the people trying to get in if they can't tho i guess

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      edit: maybe she wasnt fired & quit cuz they refused to do equality?

      Unfortunately, in most employment relationships there's very little functional difference between quitting and being forced out.