"So... everything the Communists ever did cannot be judged?"

"Uh, well, you see..."

  • JuneFall [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    it was the moral thing to do

    No, it wasn't. Just cause the fascist state tells you something doesn't make it moral. Why else would've been my great uncle have been in a concentration camp (most of my older ancestor were not cool, though)?

    Besides that, it really isn't ideal to take the Nazis and Shoa to draw examples from, cause details matter.

    Though I get an angle you come from which is that for certain cultural community goals they become norms.

    • Budwig_v_1337hoven [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Just cause the fascist state tells you something doesn’t make it moral.

      The fascist state didn't have to tell people shit, it emerged from what people thought was moral in the first place. Nazi soldiers weren't acting in the full knowledge of being 'the baddies' - in their worldview they were the 'good guys', the moral defenders of the German Volk. That's what's so insidious about morals in the first place, they do get constructed and warped through socialization

      Edit: if you hate the nazi example, think of cultures where religious human sacrifice was regarded as moral

      • JuneFall [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        in their worldview they were the ‘good guys’, the moral defenders of the German Volk

        No, this is not factual accurate. This is also doing psychological farseeing about the content of million's heads and doesn't meet up with historical understanding of the time - neither from Marxist historical, nor orthodox perspective.

        The fascist state didn’t have to tell people shit

        One reason more that one shouldn't use the Nazi's as general example, when one isn't specific.

        • Budwig_v_1337hoven [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          This is also doing psychological about the content of millions

          I don't understand that sentence, sorry. Also, I'm not sure what understanding of the time you are alluding to; care to elaborate?