This post is obviously still full of people who swallow the propaganda but there’s a surprising amount of comments calling it out, and I’m noticing that as a trend across posts. Link to the post

  • opposide [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    I absolutely would believe if the evidence was there because I like to be very critical of my personal beliefs on things like this so I can try to see past biases. I don’t think China is doing NOTHING in Xinjiang, but what makes testimonies really hard to believe is when a literal CIA translator for Guantanamo does a Reddit AMA as a uyghur victim and gets exposed for it. There should be plenty of evidence for this since its apparently millions of people and been going on for a decade now, but we keep seeing the same three people popping up telling stories that change each time or have no evidence

    • late90smullbowl [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      CIA translator for Guantanamo does a Reddit AMA as a uyghur victim and gets exposed for it

      wasn't even aware of this. brilliant. like hair dye running down your face at a crucial live press conference in a garden centre.

      • opposide [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        We need wet Giuliani as an emote

        Also yeah I’ll plug a link to that AMA in my comment mentioning it.

      • Phish [he/him, any]
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        4 years ago

        Hard to navigate is right. I literally have no idea what's going on in Xinjiang. I know for a fact that the US has an interest in pushing propaganda around it, even have direct evidence of said propaganda, but it's not like China is completely trustworthy either. Every time something like this is posted on reddit there are plenty of people completely sure that China is evil and horrible, plenty of people sure it's a lie, and people accusing each other left and right of being shadow mouthpieces for one state or the other. I'm pretty convinced that the confusion is intentional at this point I just don't know what the reality is. I'm tired of trying to guess but I don't know how to find the truth.

        • MarxistHedonism [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          My feelings are I don’t really know what’s going on. I don’t think China is necessarily doing nothing wrong, but I really don’t think they’re worse than what ICE is doing to Latin American immigrants.

          I’m not going to trust anything that cites Zenz and frankly, I’d rather focus my energy on stopping the horrible things that I know for a fact are going on in my own country.

          • Phish [he/him, any]
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            4 years ago

            Oh yeah, I don't believe shit that comes from Zenz or uses him as a source.