It’s a catch 22. Don’t reform and let the contradictions grow within capitalism. Give soc dem reforms and reestablish some belief in capitalism. It’s essentially the New Deal, which fdr credited as his greatest accomplishment “saving capitalism.”
I’ll agree with you but I think that if reforms take place they need to be aimed towards revolutionary ideology/theory. If that makes sense? Say, to correct a wrong party line that we have discovered a more correct, scientific approach towards socialism or that subject.
Proselytizing for "non-reformist" reforms could be a good way to radicalize people. You demand something which is reasonable (such as medicare for all, defund the police) knowing full-well that the hegemonic powers will not allow it to pass because it would fundamentally alter the balance of power. People become personally invested in the campaign and once they are invested, they begin to notice all the subtle ways the hegemony attempts to crush it. It takes them through the paces of doing the liberalism thing in good faith only to see firsthand how futile it is. When the initiative fails, the people who were personally invested in it will now feel a personal animosity towards the people who went out of their way to ensure injustice prevailed. Those people will all become much more skeptical of the institutions and more prepared to adopt more radical methods in the future.
The thing is, you don't want to bite off so much that you're signing ordinary people up for a suicide mission. You also don't want to ram up against a brick wall and teach everyone who got involved that participation in politics is futile. You still need to do a good materialist analysis to figure out what you should be campaigning for, and what you're up against.
Lenin says that the vanguard and its supporters should be the most effective and good advocates for better conditions, this is to make people see and believe in them being interested in bettering the situation for the working class. That is to be combined with a clear line of communism and strife for revolt though, to show that only in communism will the contradictions completely absolved.
Ugh. Reform is sometimes possible. Ew.
Fuck me for saying this it feels disgusting
It’s a catch 22. Don’t reform and let the contradictions grow within capitalism. Give soc dem reforms and reestablish some belief in capitalism. It’s essentially the New Deal, which fdr credited as his greatest accomplishment “saving capitalism.”
I 100% agree but I don’t see those as effective reforms for socialism. The effective reforms are yet to come hopefully.
I’m not saying reform is always the solution, I’m saying reform is possible in some circumstances
Oh you mean socialist reforms? I mean it could. Brezhnev had to do some to try to reverse Khrushchev’s reforms.
I assumed you meant reforms within capitalism like in our system.
Oh. Lol no.
Capital controls policy in our hellworld so no meaningful reform will ever happen unless it’s good for somebody who controls capital.
Goooood goood.
I’ll agree with you but I think that if reforms take place they need to be aimed towards revolutionary ideology/theory. If that makes sense? Say, to correct a wrong party line that we have discovered a more correct, scientific approach towards socialism or that subject.
Proselytizing for "non-reformist" reforms could be a good way to radicalize people. You demand something which is reasonable (such as medicare for all, defund the police) knowing full-well that the hegemonic powers will not allow it to pass because it would fundamentally alter the balance of power. People become personally invested in the campaign and once they are invested, they begin to notice all the subtle ways the hegemony attempts to crush it. It takes them through the paces of doing the liberalism thing in good faith only to see firsthand how futile it is. When the initiative fails, the people who were personally invested in it will now feel a personal animosity towards the people who went out of their way to ensure injustice prevailed. Those people will all become much more skeptical of the institutions and more prepared to adopt more radical methods in the future.
The thing is, you don't want to bite off so much that you're signing ordinary people up for a suicide mission. You also don't want to ram up against a brick wall and teach everyone who got involved that participation in politics is futile. You still need to do a good materialist analysis to figure out what you should be campaigning for, and what you're up against.
Lenin says that the vanguard and its supporters should be the most effective and good advocates for better conditions, this is to make people see and believe in them being interested in bettering the situation for the working class. That is to be combined with a clear line of communism and strife for revolt though, to show that only in communism will the contradictions completely absolved.
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Just saying
Remind you of anyone? :chapo:
when are the sometimes?
Bolivia, Chile next :inshallah:
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Nicaragua
Didn't El Alto besiege La Paz at one point? Also Water and Gas "wars" don't sound that reformist to me