I'm going to post a couple links to sources for the next couple days to hopefully start a conversation in this space! These will fall in the area of Fat Studies and there's some norms you should be aware of:

  • "fat" is taken as a neutral descriptor, think of it as reclaiming the word.
  • "obese" arbitrarily medicalises fatness and Others fat people

I'm a cis man and I have (had) body image issues (in the past)

https://humanparts.medium.com/my-journey-toward-radical-body-positivity-3412796df8ff


I'm queer and fat

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yeefpijtl4s7orv/Flaunting%20Fat%20%E2%80%93%C2%A0Sex%20with%20the%20Lights%20On.pdf?dl=0


I'm queer and not fat

https://www.bitchmedia.org/post/fat-liberation-is-totally-queer


The others don't apply to me and/or I only have the energy/time to read one source

https://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/everything-you-know-about-obesity-is-wrong/


:sankara-salute:

👉 Part 2 is up

👉 Part 3 is up

  • carlin [he/him,comrade/them]
    hexagon
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    4 years ago

    I hope you realise that your quote emphasises that it is not in their control to stay skinny the rest of their lives

      • MemesAreTheory [he/him, any]
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        4 years ago

        I really think we need to change the messaging on this issue. It’s not “Diet and exercise,” it’s “Exercise until it becomes second nature and feels good, then barely restrict your calories so your body hardly notices the difference.” People want big results and fast so they cut back their eating or change their diet all at once. Sure, it’s exciting to lose a pound or more per week, but it’s much more sustainable to go for a pound or two per month. Make incrimental changes one at a time until they become a habit. Much less damaging for the ego to relapse on one tiny new commitment than an entire diet, makes it easier to avoid feelings of failure that motivate people to give up entirely that way.

        Hell I'm guilty of it right now - but I'm returning to a way of eating and exercise that I maintained for years (and felt great!), not trying to start something foreign to me. I got out of my good habits due to depression. It would be very different if I were starting from zero, but even now I'm easing back into it instead of rushing all at once. It took me about 4 years to fully implement the changes to my diet that I wanted the first time. I set a new goal about once every 3-6 months. No soda at first, then cutting back other sweets, then changing my snacks to healthier options, then cutting out refined grains, then working on increasing the ratio of veggies/fruits on my plate, then cutting out added sugar entirely, then lowering my sodium intake. Most recently I had made it to 50% vegetarian/vegan days before the depression got me. Of course during the entire process I had set backs at times, but because I only took on one change at a time I'd only fall back to the level immediately before. Takes a really long time to break the addiction to sugars and salts and cheap fats the food industry hooks us on. No way would I have succeeded if I tried to do it all at once.

        However, I recognize the importance of the OP for this to be feasible. People need to feel loved and supported through this serious lifestyle change, not pressured and judged. I really appreciated the the essay by Matt McGorry. The toxicity surrounding this issue is immense!

      • carlin [he/him,comrade/them]
        hexagon
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        4 years ago

        This quote from the first piece shows the harm that diets cause:

        Weight cycling has been associated with an increased risk of cardiovascular problems and higher mortality from all causes. Indeed some research indicates that weight cycling can account for all of the excess mortality risks for certain diseases associated with being in a larger body. One large-scale, long-term study followed more than 3,100 people over thirty-two years; it found weight cycling correlated with an increased risk of death from all causes and an increased risk of developing coronary heart disease, even after controlling for BMI and other potentially confounding factors such as preexisting illness and smoking. Not only that, but the relative risks attributable to weight cycling were comparable to the risks that typically get blamed on being in a larger body — suggesting that if all studies were to control for weight cycling, any excess risk from so-called ‘overweight’ or ‘obesity’ might disappear… Until all research can control for weight cycling and weight stigma, we can’t say that being at the higher end of the BMI spectrum causes any health conditions — even if higher weights are associated with these health conditions.

        It's more "(in the case of fat people) diets are harmful or impossible to maintain so it's better to focus on your health rather than the number on the scale".