I'm going to post a couple links to sources for the next couple days to hopefully start a conversation in this space! These will fall in the area of Fat Studies and there's some norms you should be aware of:

  • "fat" is taken as a neutral descriptor, think of it as reclaiming the word.
  • "obese" arbitrarily medicalises fatness and Others fat people

I'm a cis man and I have (had) body image issues (in the past)

https://humanparts.medium.com/my-journey-toward-radical-body-positivity-3412796df8ff


I'm queer and fat

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yeefpijtl4s7orv/Flaunting%20Fat%20%E2%80%93%C2%A0Sex%20with%20the%20Lights%20On.pdf?dl=0


I'm queer and not fat

https://www.bitchmedia.org/post/fat-liberation-is-totally-queer


The others don't apply to me and/or I only have the energy/time to read one source

https://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/everything-you-know-about-obesity-is-wrong/


:sankara-salute:

👉 Part 2 is up

👉 Part 3 is up

  • Gay_Wrath [fae/faer]
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    4 years ago

    Fuck yeah, i was waiting for this discourse to take off. Here's another article saying BMI is both useless AND racist and why we shouldn't use it to measure health

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bmi-scale-racist-health_l_5f15a8a8c5b6d14c336a43b0

    “It is racist, and also sexist, to use mostly white men within your study population and then try to extrapolate that and create norms and expectations for women and people of color,” Strings told HuffPost. “They have not been included in the initial clinical analyses, and therefore their actual health outcomes cannot be determined by these findings.”

    In short, the way BMI is being used is unscientific because of its origins and the homogenous population it was created from.

    thin bodies of northern and western Europeans were upheld as the ideal, while the often larger bodies of eastern and southern Europeans, as well as Africans, were considered signs of their inferiority. All of this was before we really knew anything about the (still blurry and confounding) relationship between weight and health. The modern BMI and its categories ― underweight, normal, overweight and obese ― have inherited much of that racism.

    Many males with anorexia nervosa go undiagnosed because they are technically within the “normal” BMI category, Gaudiani said. The same thing happens to people at higher weights, who often don’t get screened for eating disorders despite things like significant recent weight loss, symptoms of malnutrition or reported eating disorder behaviors.

    This actually happened to me, to some degree. I went into the doctor for something else after unintentionally losing around 25 lbs in a year due to not eating because of anxiety. My body felt like shit, I was constantly dizzy and tired. My face was sunken. i could feel my bones and see all my ribs. It literally hurt to sit because my ass and thighs were losing padding and i just felt my bones. Some days, i could eat nothing. On my good days, i was able to eat perhaps half a regular meal and a snack. I felt and looked sick.

    The doctors said nothing, because i still barely in the "healthy" BMI range (i got big xaddy milkers which throw the scale off. No matter how emaciated i became, the tit persists), in fact they didn't even ask about my weight loss, it was just assumed to be good/intentional. Conversely, years ago i was a bit heavier and barely dipped over to the "overweight" range for BMI. I went to see the doctor for a refill of birth control and immediately my doctor asked "if i was happy at this weight" and adopted a judgemental tone when she asked it. She also implied i didn't need antidepressants if i "took care of myself better" and pressured me to go off them, which i did, which gave me terrible withdrawals and still didn't fix my depression, anxiety, or PTSD. My next doctor put me back on them after i tested high on the depression scale lol

    On the flip side, uncle who was in the military was actually forced to lose weight at some point because his BMI was too high - but he was built out of pure muscle and had a healthily low fat %. He had to stop working out and let muscle atrophy to be able to fit their arbitrary weight range.

    • carlin [he/him,comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      edit-2
      4 years ago

      Thanks for posting that! I'm going to highlight BMI in my post tomorrow because it's SO arbitrary even without the whole body-builder argument

      Oh and relevant to your comment, in the last piece above there is this quote, which is a bit of a window into what you might be experiencing:

      Lesley Williams, a family medicine doctor in Phoenix, tells me she gets an alert from her electronic health records software every time she’s about to see a patient who is above the “overweight” threshold. The reason for this is that physicians are often required, in writing, to prove to hospital administrators and insurance providers that they have brought up their patient’s weight and formulated a plan to bring it down—regardless of whether that patient came in with arthritis or a broken arm or a bad sunburn. Failing to do that could result in poor performance reviews, low ratings from insurance companies or being denied reimbursement if they refer patients to specialized care.

      • Gay_Wrath [fae/faer]
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        4 years ago

        What the fuck :|

        Thanks for posting the OP, lots of libs still haven't realized the full extent of the harm the stigma from fatphobia causes. It's wild how people will just make assumptions about strangers from their bodies and then repeat those as if the stigma isn't actually dangerously dehumanizing.

        • carlin [he/him,comrade/them]
          hexagon
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          4 years ago

          r/fatpeoplehate normalised it in libs brains.

          I mean also like the entire media, particularly childrens, but I want to make witty chapo post hahaha