This is true. However, there are definitely forces that compel teachers to act like cops (administration and reactionary societal factors paired with a teacher’s dominion over over a roomful of students are some of the forces).
The biggest example I’ve personally seen was in a university setting, where sometimes too many absences would result in letter grade reductions; that shit drove me nuts. I don’t remember or have teaching experience with pre-university education, although I’m sure examples abound.
Students are owed an environment conducive to learning, and this leads to a fine line between cop and not-cop behavior in many circumstances. But I do think that teaching, partly due to its history, can foster an environment of paternalism which, if unchecked, can get way out of hand
A lot of the teachers I had definitely had the cop mindset unfortunately. Enforcing hair policies, uniform policy, school rules, etc and using it to be an asshole or prejudiced or to enforce whatever baises they had. It was also my first time seeing racism first hand. There was always this one teacher that told black kids to comb their hair, but never once told a white kid to do the same. Another time some friends and I were playing soccer, and near us another group of mainly black kids were doing the same. A teacher asked the black kids to stop playing soccer, but didn't do the same to my white friends and I despite seeing us.
I also had cool teachers though, one kicked out a student of their class for being homophobic and was always welcoming and accepting. Never enforced any of the bullshit school policies around hair and uniforms. Made me feel safe as a closeted bi teen in a very unaccepting environment. Unfortunately the Stockholm syndrome high school students cyber bullied the poor teacher really badly...
but parents are overwhelming likely to be petite bourgeoisie assholes than any teacher.
They have a point. Just because there's a lot of very good teachers bad at their job (molding the minds of today into the exploited masses of tomorrow) doesn't make the institution any better. There's so much bullshit to wade through as a teacher, it's very difficult to actually, y'know, teach.
lolok, lemme just accuse you of arguing in bad faith real quick
If you think an education system in post-revolution society looks anything like the modern American system, you'll have a counterrevolution in a generation. The structure of American education is anti-scientific, anti-class consciousness, and anti-humanist. Or are we going to have a bunch of kids in a row lectured to by overworked and often reactionary teachers under the bootheel of a bloated administrative apparatus teaching their charge to be a good industrial worker as decided on by a committee in Texas entirely staffed by fascists?
The OP's thesis is that school is totalitarian, presumably to propagandize people, and teachers are class traitors because of their participation in it. Not that school is a thing we can destroy right now.
If we did, that'd be fine, though. Revolutionary schools like the kind you see in protest movements with a large contingent of TAs and teachers are absolutely and incontrovertibly superior, if only because they are led by the workers and not the owners. (Meaning, led by the workers toward suppression of the owners in society).
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If they’re not cops how come they can put me on timeout for flinging poop?
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Same way anybody else does. RKO, out of nowhere.
This is true. However, there are definitely forces that compel teachers to act like cops (administration and reactionary societal factors paired with a teacher’s dominion over over a roomful of students are some of the forces).
The biggest example I’ve personally seen was in a university setting, where sometimes too many absences would result in letter grade reductions; that shit drove me nuts. I don’t remember or have teaching experience with pre-university education, although I’m sure examples abound.
Students are owed an environment conducive to learning, and this leads to a fine line between cop and not-cop behavior in many circumstances. But I do think that teaching, partly due to its history, can foster an environment of paternalism which, if unchecked, can get way out of hand
A lot of the teachers I had definitely had the cop mindset unfortunately. Enforcing hair policies, uniform policy, school rules, etc and using it to be an asshole or prejudiced or to enforce whatever baises they had. It was also my first time seeing racism first hand. There was always this one teacher that told black kids to comb their hair, but never once told a white kid to do the same. Another time some friends and I were playing soccer, and near us another group of mainly black kids were doing the same. A teacher asked the black kids to stop playing soccer, but didn't do the same to my white friends and I despite seeing us.
I also had cool teachers though, one kicked out a student of their class for being homophobic and was always welcoming and accepting. Never enforced any of the bullshit school policies around hair and uniforms. Made me feel safe as a closeted bi teen in a very unaccepting environment. Unfortunately the Stockholm syndrome high school students cyber bullied the poor teacher really badly...
This is 1000% true
There's a lot of racist white women who work in the city school district
It depends on the location. There are plenty of districts where teachers are both a complicit and integral part of the school to prison pipeline.
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They have a point. Just because there's a lot of very good teachers bad at their job (molding the minds of today into the exploited masses of tomorrow) doesn't make the institution any better. There's so much bullshit to wade through as a teacher, it's very difficult to actually, y'know, teach.
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lolok, lemme just accuse you of arguing in bad faith real quick
If you think an education system in post-revolution society looks anything like the modern American system, you'll have a counterrevolution in a generation. The structure of American education is anti-scientific, anti-class consciousness, and anti-humanist. Or are we going to have a bunch of kids in a row lectured to by overworked and often reactionary teachers under the bootheel of a bloated administrative apparatus teaching their charge to be a good industrial worker as decided on by a committee in Texas entirely staffed by fascists?
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The OP's thesis is that school is totalitarian, presumably to propagandize people, and teachers are class traitors because of their participation in it. Not that school is a thing we can destroy right now.
If we did, that'd be fine, though. Revolutionary schools like the kind you see in protest movements with a large contingent of TAs and teachers are absolutely and incontrovertibly superior, if only because they are led by the workers and not the owners. (Meaning, led by the workers toward suppression of the owners in society).
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Is this one of those 15 year olds from twitter who call themselves "school abolitionists?"
finish your homework, :LIB:
AdamSandler? Is that you?
downvote