Off the top of my head, SpongeBob SquarePants, Danny Phantom, Fairly Oddparents, The Big Bang Theory and It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia all have jokes, if not the main plot point of the episode, that are just mocking the existence of LGBTQ people.

  • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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    4 years ago

    Toy Story 4 was just unnecessary, it wasn't actively bad the way that post-S3 Spongebob was

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      The ending of Toy Story 4 was absolutely terrible though. The rest of the film was fine, but the ending was actively bad, at least for me.

      • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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        4 years ago

        I honestly don't remember the ending super well, what did you dislike about it?

        • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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          4 years ago
          spoiler

          Woody just leaves everyone to become a nomad with Bo Peep if my memory is correct. It's the complete opposite of his character throughout the first 3 films, like there's no way Woody would do that.

          • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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            4 years ago

            Well, I mean, if the running metaphor for the whole series up to that point was parenthood, it seems like that was a message about not just giving up on life once your kids leave the house. And I mean, granted, I was in a class about lifespan development at the point I saw that movie, but it made me think a lot about Generativity vs Stagnation

            • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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              4 years ago
              spoiler

              So midlife crisis Woody just leaves the gang he's been with for 20+ years to have/chase a relationship with Bo Peep that he missed out on earlier? I can see why some people like it, but I'm definitely not a fan. Pixar ruining my childhood with mature storytelling 😤😤😤

              • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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                4 years ago

                I can't believe I'm about to deep-dive into the character of someone from fucking Toy Story lol. Especially when I do really think Toy Story 4 didn't need to exist at all.

                I feel like this actually works with Woody's arc. He spent the first two movies absolutely obsessed with Andy to a way higher degree than the other toys. The third movie was about him realizing that it's ok to let Andy go, in favor of Bonnie. Then the fourth movie is about him letting go of having a particular attachment to any one child in particular, in favor of just being roving toy batman I guess. It's about him learning to accept not being a control freak, and it also fits with the major undercurrent of his arc from previous movies being that, as a cowboy, he's only getting more obsolete and is not likely to be any child's favorite in the future.

                • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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                  4 years ago

                  This is the content I come to chapo.chat for. I mean I still disagree, probably due to entirely irrational reasons and childhood emotional attachment, but damn we just did character analysis on the toy story franchise

                  • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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                    4 years ago

                    "Woody from toy story" and "character arc" would never appear in the same sentence anywhere else :stalin-heart: