• disco [any]
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    4 years ago

    It’s not “enlightened centrism” to consume media critically. Russia isn’t some anti-imperialist bulwark, they’re just another empire advancing their own interests.

      • disco [any]
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        4 years ago

        Critical support for the CCCP, but Russia is unabashedly capitalist and reactionary. Like is this seriously a pro Putin board all of a sudden?

        Edit: Putin stans can eat shiiiiiit

          • disco [any]
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            4 years ago

            Yeah, not going to apologize for being born in the US, in case you didn’t know it’s not easy to leave, otherwise I’d have done so already for what it’s worth.

            Kind of curious where you think I’m making “vitriolic accusations” though. I said Gray Zone was a Russian op. I stand by that, but I still read it. I just think it’s important to be aware that they’re also pushing a national interest.

            • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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              4 years ago

              That is literally a baseline take that even a radlib like Chomsky appreciates, how the fuck is that remotely "iNsUfFeRaBle"

              Moralistic virtue signaling about dictators your country helped bring to power will always remain the actual insufferable position, sorry

              • Sincerity [comrade/them]
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                4 years ago

                Yes, criticism of modern Russia under a literal autocrat is big time “moralistic virtue signalling”.

                Get outta here. The motherland is dead and gone and any leftist ought rightfully to criticise the current apparatus of power and corruption in Russia.

                Even mentioning Russia in the same breath as China and Bolivia is completely asinine.

                • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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                  4 years ago

                  Yes, criticism of modern Russia under a literal autocrat is big time “moralistic virtue signalling”.

                  If you're an American, YES, especially if you neglect intentionally or otherwise to pair said criticism with the context of HOW and WHY Putin came to power

                  The motherland is dead and gone and any leftist ought rightfully to criticise the current apparatus of power and corruption in Russia.

                  Ok and? You do realize you have absolutely zero moral, political, or social clout to effect change in Russia, again moralistic virtue signalling

                  Even mentioning Russia in the same breath as China and Bolivia is completely asinine.

                  How about mentioning Russia in the context of NATO, is that asinine? Or is agitating for a Second Russian collapse in the span of 30 years somehow "woke" now?

                  • Sincerity [comrade/them]
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                    4 years ago

                    Lmao

                    Moralistic virtue signalling “woke”

                    Is this Cha Cha or 2013 Atheist YouTube?

                    This is as simple as accepting that critical thought ought to be levelled at media and it’s not doing an imperialism to do so. You don’t need to do a screed to justify every point of contention.

                    • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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                      4 years ago

                      Is this Cha Cha or 2013 Atheist YouTube?

                      Funny, you're kneejerk hysterics about foreign dictators reminded me more of "2013 Atheist YouTube"

                      This is as simple as accepting that critical thought

                      LMAO what "critical thought" have you actually leveled russiagator? I can read your dogshit screed on any thread in r/politics, here's an idea, come up with a take about Russia where you don't sound like a Jake Tapper sockpuppet

                      • Sincerity [comrade/them]
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                        4 years ago

                        Nice misquote bro.

                        You’re fighting with an enemy that doesn’t exist.

                        I’m literally not from the US, and have no support for Russiagate conspiracies. But your boy up there is failing to take a stance beyond

                        West = US = Imperialism = bad

                        :. Anything not the West = not the US = not imperialism = good and to be trusted

                        • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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                          4 years ago

                          I’m literally not from the US, and have no support for Russiagate conspiracies

                          uh, huh cool story love, absolutely riveting

                          But your boy up there is failing to take a stance beyond

                          :ohnoes: oh shit my boy didn't take a "STANCE"

                          West = US = Imperialism = bad

                          Yesssss? That is objectively correct, not seeing the issue here

                          :. Anything not the West = not the US = not imperialism = good and to be trusted

                          fucks sake just forward your application to CNN already

                          Also question, do you believe the Ukraine should invade Crimea with the aid of NATO?

                          • Sincerity [comrade/them]
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                            4 years ago

                            This is unproductive, you can quote my posts piece by piece and add your irony poisoned retorts if it makes you feel better about your day.

                            But I don’t see this going any further than that, and since this is a shared left space rather than reddit we should leave it at that.