Communism is not when the workers own the means of production or capital (Anarchosyndicalism, Market socialism, mutualism)

Communism is not when the state owns all capital (USSR, Cuba, NK, ML in general)

Communism isnt about building productive forces for some alleged future socialism (China, Vietnam, Dengism)

Communism is not about acheiveing "real democracy" (Anarchism, autonomism. libertarianism)

“Communism is for us not a state of affairs which is to be established, an ideal to which reality [will] have to adjust itself. We call communism the real movement which abolishes the present state of things. The conditions of this movement result from the premises now in existence.” ― Karl Marx

The present state of things are - the existence of the value-form, commodities and their exchange, wage-labor, private property : all of which are interlinked and cannot be abolished piecemeal. These are the categories that actually describe capitalism, this was what Marx uncovered.

The elimination of these things does not occur by imagining their replacement and working towards an ideal imagined society, but by working on the present premises. It is a movement, and the truths of the next society is uncovered by the movement itself, i.e. the knowledge of the concrete aspects of communism is discovered in practice.

Until there exists a movement, it is fruitless to engage in utopian theorizing and prattling about action or activism. The movement must arise from the working class itself and only itself, as it becomes conscious of itself and actively works to abolish not just the capitalist class but also itself.

Movements by working class people to reform capitalism, such as the DSA, most trade union activity, electoralism, "anti-imperialism" a.k.a allying with local bourgs against international bourgs, and all other such activity is not revolutionary and communists do not want anything to do with it.

It is true that truly revolutionary working class people are a tiny minority, and don't exist as a real movement anywhere in the world, but this doesnt mean that communists dilute their concrete goals and their theory to appeal to the masses. In this sense, we are anti-democratic and "authoritarian".

I've written all this because one of the principles communists have is they "disdain to conceal their views and aims". As unpopular as these views may be among leftists (which communists are not), they are nevertheless our actual views and principles that will not be changed.

  • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Communism is for us not a state of affairs which is to be established, an ideal to which reality [will] have to adjust itself. We call communism the real movement which abolishes the present state of things. The conditions of this movement result from the premises now in existence.

    Movements by working class people to reform capitalism, such as the DSA, most trade union activity, electoralism, “anti-imperialism” a.k.a allying with local bourgs against international bourgs, and all other such activity is not revolutionary and communists do not want anything to do with it.

    How are those things not a result of the premises now in existence? They exist. They're fighting against something. Is our job as communists to gatekeep? Or to use these existing movements as a tool for expansion of consciousness in the working class?

    • JuneFall [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      How are those things not a result of the premises now in existence? They exist. They’re fighting against something. Is our job as communists to gatekeep? Or to use these existing movements as a tool for expansion of consciousness in the working class?

      You have the correct understanding, unlike OP.

    • sayssanford [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      How are those things not a result of the premises now in existence? They exist

      We call communism the real movement which abolishes the present state of things

      Movements which dont have this active goal are reformist movements whether they exist or not. In most cases we are not against such reformist movements as long as they are actually movements of the working class.

      Is our job as communists to gatekeep?

      Yes. Communists are members of the working class who are its most advanced section in terms of theory, class consciousness and willingness to abolish capitalism. Communists are not interested in diluting their aims to gain a bigger umbrella.

      Or to use these existing movements as a tool for expansion of consciousness in the working class?

      Exactly, you do this by "Gatekeeping".