• sagarmatha [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    so neoconservatism is literally just diet fascism, the description is strikingly similar, while neolibs would just be socdems who weren’t afraid of the poors, partying away and profiting without a care in the world for the rest of humanity, seems almost apt though i think this understates the neolib version of the empire very much (mostly just the Clintons really tbf)

    • Akz1918 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Not exactly, the OG neocon was Henry Scoop Jackson aka the Senator from Boeing. He was the Democratic Senator from Washington, who's domestic policies could hardly be called fascist. Neocon refers to a particular foreign policy position, where as neoliberism is a economic policy, not that I need to tell you but one that seeks to deregulate, institute austerity, union bust, and not enforce anti-trust laws, i.e. the fascists economic policy, of Italy, Germany, Portugal, and Spain when they were run by fascist dictators. There is nothing "socdem" about a neolib, however a neocon can be a socdem, ex Scoop Jackson.

      • sagarmatha [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        depends how extensive you consider neocon ideology to be, if you take Bushs it definitely include a social conservatism component and neoliberalism as a matter of course, while neolibs of the same era are socdems in the sense that they enable neocons and are inwardly centered, taking from the description made above of neolibs and neocons as political affiliation rather than the narrow ideology referred by the same names, where you’re definitely right, although i would say a foreign policy based on empire is a requirement for fascism which is what neoconservatism is