I know a ton of people who Do Not Fuck and almost none of them hate women

  • ElGosso [he/him]
    ·
    4 years ago

    Yes, it's entirely a position that stems from a place of entitlement

    You grow up consuming media saying Just Be Yourself and that weirdo outcasts always get the girl, and when it doesn't work then there must be something profoundly wrong with You so you turn into a bitter cave troll who hates everyone and everything that reminds you of how much of a failure you are

    • Lil_Revolitionary [she/her,they/them]
      hexagon
      ·
      4 years ago

      The movement makes sense, i guess. As capitalism is continuing, the atomic family is being replaced with single, atomized workers. Just look at Japan, where nobody gets enough time off work to even try starting a family. But instead of fighting the forces that alienate us, they fetishize a past where being a man and having a job entitled you to a relationship. Classic reactionary stuff, obviously women and minorities are behind all their problems

      • HebronJames [any]
        ·
        edit-2
        4 years ago

        Daily reminder that Japan has the largest opposition communist party in the world, they aren't all reactionaries despite what the ruling class of those islands might have you think

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
      ·
      4 years ago

      I think societal pressure to have sex and ostracism of those who don't or can't is a contributor too. I became way less hung up about sex when I realized that a person who would give me shit for being a virgin probably isn't someone I'd want to associate with anyway.

      • Lil_Revolitionary [she/her,they/them]
        hexagon
        ·
        4 years ago

        Yeah, incels are definitely victims of toxic masculinity. If they can't attract women, that makes them "beta males", so they have to shift blame to someone else. Ironically these are people who would benefit from feminism