• Krag [any]
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    4 years ago

    Are you actively or passively negatively portraying the language? Are you flippantly or disrespectfully appropriating the language from the native speakers? Are you using the language, knowingly or unknowingly, in a mocking manner?

    Often the answers to these questions are yes. In the posted meme, I'd say that the language change is being used to mock its speakers, therefore I think it is racist, or at least wrong in some manner.

    • a_dog [any,he/him]
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      4 years ago

      flippantly appropriating language from native speakers is normal and fine lmbo

      imagine “flippantly appropriating spanish”

      aka learning spanish like a normal human being

      • Krag [any]
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        4 years ago

        Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear. I do not mean to portray 'flippantly' and 'disrespectfully' appropriating as opposites.

        There's a difference between learning a language and flippantly using it. Example, a non-Spanish speaker calling a Spanish-speaker 'ese', even if they do not intend to offend, is probably not cultural appreciation.

        • itsPina [he/him, she/her]M
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          4 years ago

          Idk man the people mocking the language are usually the people who are very apparently racist. lots of millennials and zoomers use ebonics in every day conversation because that's just how they grew up, no malice meant.

          If it's mocking it's usually very apparent.

          • Krag [any]
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            4 years ago

            Yes, I agree. Using a language, or dialect of a language, is not inherently racist. You have to examine the use and context of the situation.

            • itsPina [he/him, she/her]M
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              4 years ago

              Yep. I don't think the average white liberal is being racist when using ebonics tho. Some of them? For sure. Most? Nope. They have plenty of other racist beliefs that we can make fun of imo.

              • TheDeed [he/him, comrade/them]
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                4 years ago

                It is politically charged, and often used in a denigrating manner. (Not proper English, stupid, improper, etc)

                At least it was back in the day. I don’t think many people use the term currently. Most linguists and black people would use AAVE instead. Ebonics is actually short for “Ebony phonetics” which is gross

                For some history on how the term got so charged:

                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_Vernacular_English_and_education#Oakland_Ebonics_resolution