Yeah, yall are not getting around that one. We all have seen the simping posts in the subreddit. You could barely contain your thirst whenever he showed up.
For all the talk about organizing, most of you still seem mostly content with making grand stands about succdemmery and burning your money on whatever politician that walks in.
That's not the main problem here tho. What's really annoying is that as soon as your toy, an ND worker, turned out to be disappointing because he couldn't pull off the electoral campaign you encouraged him to do, you dropped him like a hot potato. Is this your definition of fucking solidarity, you assholes?
It's safe to assume you just jumped on the hate train after Felix told you about the keyboard, which was itself just not true? Imagine getting told by rich NT Brooklyn Podcast hosts about who to see as a grifter.
Of course it was a bad & dumb idea for him to run and he fucked up, it was pretty much malicious incompetence. But that didn't stop you from enabling him. This is not a defense of Collins, this is me telling you off for your shitty behaviour.
Have you got any idea how neurodiverse people feel when they see someone like them try, fail and then getting mocked and humiliated not just by their enemy but by what they thought was their own site?
Honestly. I think the community supported him because the community will support ANY socialist that comes forwards and clearly is making an earnest attempt at pushing socialism, electoral or not.
I also think that it's not that bad if people mock the failures. Including ourselves for it. We can't be weak about it and we can't baby ourselves. Chapo deserves to be mocked just as relentlessly as chapo mocks the failure itself. I think a part of the mocking is, in fact, the community mocking itself for having backed it all so hard but just isn't communicated very clearly.
yea, self-crit is good. maybe the larger whole won't attach themselves to the next socdem who shows up asking for money as a consequence of discussions like these.
Honestly I don't actually mind people supporting them. And I don't mind them failing either. I think they have a place, for a specific audience, and provide a certain benefit. We need to remember to be a broad movement if the goal is to act as a liberal to leftist funnel.
I agree in the abstract but we lack a filter entirely right now. and it leads to these wild swings where we go from uncritical support to uncritical loathing of someone who was almost definitely not grifting and really just ran an incompetent campaign.
I agree. We should perform uncritical loathing for incompetence instead of grifting which should definitely be aimed at the subreddit itself as well. But it should be in a good natured way that doesn't deter people from trying or deter people from supporting the next one.