idk why I do this to myself- on reddit, arguing about the AUMF and here these idiots are saying that Saddam didn't have sovereignty rights because he was a dictator- which is guess is free reign to drop white phosphorus on people? Jesus fucking christ- and some other loser on there saying that voting works! We got 20 million more people healthcare (that covers nothing and can barely afford) so that's proof voting works!

    • ChairmanSpongebob [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah that's one thing- these internet loons were still trying to justify it. I've had that same experience you did tho too, my friends boomer parents were watching pbs election coverage back in November, up here in Canada, and they were asking who's this David Frum fellow? Yeah a scumbag Iraq war promoter, but its cool now because he's worried about Trump winning again. Must be a good guy.

      • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        I'm not saying Trump's entire presidency was a psy op to cover for everyone else in Washington but he couldn't have done a better job of it if it were.

    • sandinista209 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah, I’ve noticed that with a lot of lib friends I talk to. Whenever I tell them being in the Middle East is making things worse, they’ll just say it sucks but we need to be there to keep the peace (yeah right). They’re pretty much fine with the US acting as a permanent occupying force at this point.

    • Circra [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I dunno if people don't care. I mean, if you are talking about the bit players, sure, but at least in the UK people seem to care about the major players.

      For instance, whenever Blair sticks his oar in on one side of a political debate and it's publicised, the other side gets a bit of a boost. His entire brand so to speak is amazingly toxic outside a small enclave of London centrists. He is remembered as the PM who lied to start an illegal, stupid war.

      • Sushi_Desires
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        4 years ago

        How do these people still not see Starmer as a centroid Op? Sometimes I am up too late and I catch waves of British leftposting, and they seem constantly bewildered?