• SSJBlueStalin [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    COVID has almsot killed more americans that ww2.

    If you add in stuff like covid triggered heart attacks in suceptable populations it for sure has already.

    Having said that, I can only stand a problematic king for doing what it can to fight the US empire

    • lvysaur [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      COVID has already disabled more people than WW2.

      Everyone seems to ignore that 90% of symptomatic cases suffer permanent lung and cardiac damage.

      People are also ignoring the fact that the Chinese virus is 10x less damaging.

      If Trump had banned white people (Europe) and allowed China, then the death and disability toll would be 10x less, with possible immunity. The Chinese version is 10x less efficient at infecting cells. It spreads slower and does less damage once infected.

      • SSJBlueStalin [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Word, I had it in april and I still need to use an inhaler so I dont cough myself awake at night.

        It is like move style nam night terror only stupid.

        That is a good point you make though, every case we allow to happen is an extra chance for the virus to mutate.

        • lvysaur [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          That is a good point you make though, every case we allow to happen is an extra chance for the virus to mutate.

          At this point I'm convinced it's a bioweapon, probably created by the US or Israel. Possibly unfinished, designed to deal with the Black population.

          Maybe China released a "harmless" version to render the US' efforts wasted (can't kill everybody if they're already immune), or possibly to try to "vaccinate" their own population en masse, but then stopped once they realized it wasn't entirely harmless.

          There are loads of news reports of mysterious pneumonia outbreaks happening all at once in the US in 2019 (in one of them, 600 students called in sick within a week). Plus a sewage sample testing positive for COV2 in Spain May 2019.

          If it did come from a bat, it's a bit weird that we didn't see it come from SEAsia or SAmerica, which have far higher bat species diversity than southern China. Also a bit weird that it only became 10x deadlier after entering Europe. Perhaps the US gov wanted to at least get some use out of their soon-to-be-obsolete project, so they let it loose, but also wanted to see its spread in Europe to see how white Americans would be affected. When the population loss wasn't too severe (maybe 2% dead and 20% disabled maximum), they decided to let it spread.

          • SSJBlueStalin [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            The only reason I don't think this was a bioweapon is that every medical textbook I've read predicted just something like this.

            They wouldn't need to develop it as a bioweapon. Just being systemically rascist and letting nature take it from there is a perfectly workable solution.

            They got the money, they got the time, they dont don't need to stuff like that. They can just stack the deck and let the odds play out in their favor.

            Not to mix metaphors, look at 9/11. We didn't have to plan it specifcially. It was an ineveitable consequence of our actions. They just had to wait for their number to come up you know?

            • lvysaur [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Nature doesn't work like that though. They've had 300 years of brutal racism, and the Black population is basically unchanged in numbers. It was 90:10 white:black back then, now it's 65:12, so even less white.

              They absolutely need a bioweapon to deal with the black population, unless they want to risk separatism and foreign intervention into Balkanization. With a bioweapon, you can plausibly deny involvement. With genocide, the entire US becomes a battleground and China/Russia jump with glee as they fund Afro-American separatists.

              • SSJBlueStalin [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                I think this take underestimstes the way the elete view us in general and bipoc in particular as beneith them. I don't think they think enough of us to do a bioweapon situation.

                Theh know everytime they pee in the pool the poorist and most desperate will get it worst. That is the apparant stated goal of the GOP and it is perfectly reasonable to assume their masters have the same kinda framework.

                The virus is exactly what every medical text book i have read predicted would happen. In my framework here, they knew it was gonna happen eventually so they didnt need to force it. They just had to place their bets and wait for them to payout.

                You, could be right. I have no way to find evidence to lean towards one way or the other. So in this dialectic both are important to consider.

                • lvysaur [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  The virus is exactly what every medical text book i have read predicted would happen.

                  Well, it just coincidentally and mysteriously affects Black people far worse than anyone else.

                  It's not just due to comorbidities either. There is a particular SNP that is more common in African-descended people, which correlates highly to disease severity. I'll try to find my bookmark and post it here, but the SNP also predicted disease severity in whites (it was just less common)

                  • SSJBlueStalin [he/him]
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                    4 years ago

                    I'm gonna pull a class reductionist here.

                    Everyrhing is worse for poor people. Cant skip work, cant go to the doctor, dont always get all the right vitamins, all the useual. And because it is america black people are over represented in the poor population.

                    My middle class friends can work from home, get grocieries delivered and can get tests easily enough.

                    It makes sense they would get worse. The game has been rigged to ensure it is so.

                    • lvysaur [he/him]
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                      4 years ago

                      Everyrhing is worse for poor people.

                      Black people die more even when you control for location, income, and comorbidities. The virus, for whatever reason, is more deadly for Black people, for genetic reasons.

                      It also curiously seems to affect Asian people less (same death rate as Europeans, despite living almost exclusively in crowded cities)