Can't find the last volume online (and I don't have room for hardcover comics in my house lol), so I'm done with Gundam the Origin for now. The full color version of this comic looks gorgeous.

The prequel portion of the comic is pretty mid. All the lore and extra background stuff about UC0079 isn't really what I find exciting about the series.

Burger amerikkka-clap:

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Deguin calls his son a Hitler ass:

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Love the "giant death robot as extension of the body" stuff:

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  • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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    1 year ago

    Love the "giant death robot as extension of the body" stuff:

    For years now I've thought that mechs make really good modern day storytelling equivalents for Golems, with their pilots as representatives of their "Will".

    • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      I'm not super familiar with the early giant robot stuff, but I think series like Tetsujin #28 and Mazinger Z were pulling a lot from old golem stories.

  • Cromalin [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    it'd be possible to make a good prequel, but i think yas just fundamentally doesn't really get gundam. maybe he needed to diverge more, as is it just pissed me off. though i am anime only, maybe the manga is different

    the things that frustrated me the most were the way char seems to have been just born evil and just get pleasure from killing people, and the fact that he made kai a punk kid leading a gang. kai's just a loser who grows out of his cowardice, he's not breaking into military bases for fun!

    though i don't want to be all negative, so here's a tweet. and i do like his art a lot

    • CriticalOtaku [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Yeah, retconning Char into the second coming of Light Yagami/Lelouch is really at odds with the intended messages of the OC and Zeta where Char's just some dumbass who happened to be the son of someone important, caught up in things waaaaay over his head and forced to make decisions he wasn't ready for until he eventually goes astray.

      • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
        hexagon
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        1 year ago

        Char's just some dumbass who happened to be the son of someone important, caught up in things waaaaay over his head and forced to make decisions he wasn't ready for until he eventually goes astray

        Casval just wanted a mommy girlfriend and maybe a twink boyfriend, too.

    • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      I can't judge Yasuhiko too hard until I've seen Venus Wars or Arion or something idk lol. The Doan movie was OK - nothing to write home about. I only saw the first minute or two of the Origin OVA when I decided I'll just wait until GGP gets to it lol. His art and design work is pretty fantastic, though.

      A huge part of Gundam for me is watching these characters go through the trauma of losing their nuclear families (through war, death, estrangement, slavery, etc) and eventually seeing them grow by learning to form connections with others, forming different kinds of found families (not necessarily positive growth, and not necessarily positive found families lmao). I think Yasuhiko doesn't quite get this piece (maybe he had decent enough parents idk), and that's why his prequel versions of these characters don't quite hit the mark.

  • CriticalOtaku [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    One day they're going to remake all of UC0079 in Origins artstyle.

    I don't know if that's a good or bad thing.

    • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      Probably bad. I'm generally in the camp of not remaking movies or TV shows unless you're going to do something interesting, or at least something novel, with them.

      It is probably inevitable since younger anime fans are fussy about old stuff, and Sunrise wants brrrrrrrrrrrr. It's a shame that G-Witch got cancelled. The AUs have generally been the more interesting Gundam releases post SEED.

      • CriticalOtaku [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        The next AU will draw all the wrong lessons from G-Witch lol

        Namely that lesbians = brrrrrrrrrrrr

        • Cromalin [she/her]
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          1 year ago

          that's not the worst lesson they could learn. if they gave someone talented a 50 episode series and made it gay they could have another turn a gundam, and that show is amazing

          • CriticalOtaku [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            They're going to give Fukuda a blank cheque to make Gay Gundam Seed and you know it

            • Cromalin [she/her]
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              1 year ago

              i mean, fukuda seems to be not particularly well loved by the higherups, my understanding is that everything he's touched since seed has fallen apart and he's never run a well produced show and after taking 2 decades for freedom they're kind of pissed

              • CriticalOtaku [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                Yeah true dat, I guess that was more my personal worst case scenario more than anything. Although tbh I'm kinda drawing a blank on who Sunrise could tap to do the next AU, since the industry seems to be running out of talented big name sci-fi directors/writers. Probably will have to be someone fresh getting promoted from episode director to series director, I guess.

                • Cromalin [she/her]
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                  1 year ago

                  after age they probably aren't going to give it to a non-anime industry pro anytime soon, but i could see them tapping a novelist as writer. iori miyazawa is a gundam fan and i'd love to see his gay gundam. i mean, he's not high profile enough and otherside picnic is a completely different type of scifi, but there's a million ln authors out there, probably a few of them are big names who are good at the gundam millieu

                  directors is tougher, but g-witch and ibo both just had industry professionals. tatsuyaki nagai was a bigger name, but hardly a super well known director. there's all kinds of journeymen out there who would be good enough. obviously you want more than good enough, but sunrise will take what they can get

                  • CriticalOtaku [he/him]
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                    1 year ago

                    When they tapped Nagai for ibo he kinda just brought his entire crew from Ano Hana along (including Mari Okada). I remember when the show was announced a lot of people were speculating about why Sunrise would go with the director/writer pair that did Toradora/Ano Hana, I think a lot of people expected a melodramatic romance... and then the warcrimes started from ep 1 lmao.

                    It's interesting to think about because most of the big names in the new generation of directors have ended up at MAPPA/Madhouse, and unlike Kyoani or UFOtable, Sunrise doesn't really have an in-house team besides maybe the Hathaway movie crew.

                    • Cromalin [she/her]
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                      1 year ago

                      i think they've had a couple shows recently trying to develop an in house team. that's my impression of what amaim was, at least, and i've heard that about a few others. but i don't know anime industry on that level. i know studios and big name directors, and i know the broad strokes of how production works, but i'm' definitely not an expert on this

                      • CriticalOtaku [he/him]
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                        1 year ago

                        Oh I'm not either I'm just thinking out loud, for example

                        amaim

                        I didn't even know this show existed hahahahaa!

                        • Cromalin [she/her]
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                          1 year ago

                          its got really bad vibes, seems super nationalistic. but i've heard it mostly exists to give animators a mecha series to work on

        • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
          hexagon
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          1 year ago

          Oh god, male gaze lesbian mecha with the-doohickey "settle down in a straight marriage and have children" is going to be a show, isn't it?

          • CriticalOtaku [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            I mean, someone at Sunrise bankrolled Cross Ange and Valverave so...

            • Cromalin [she/her]
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              1 year ago

              i watched all of cross ange. i. i don't know whhy, but i did. it's so fucking bad, the only bright spot is that occasionally the girls have some gay moments that aren't too male gazey

              • CriticalOtaku [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                Damn, you've got a stronger constitution than me, I couldn't even make 2 episodes

                • Cromalin [she/her]
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                  1 year ago

                  that first episode was probably the worst one? the sexual assault dies down for a while, though it comes back towards the end. big chunks of it are just really boring tbh, which you wouldn't expect given the sheer number of plotlines it has going on