Reverse cultural chauvinism isn't actually going to help anyone. You guys have to divert the conversation from the harm of animals to other tangential issues every time like this. Just chill out.
Not who you are replying too, but the vast majority of militant vegans that I've met are upper middle class white people (not all, mind you) This group has a tendency to impose it's culture and values on other people, while also being responsible for upholding systems of oppression.
This group has a tendency to impose it’s culture and values on other people.
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Like that post oh here where a vegan told an indigenous person that didn't like their bit to go "read settlers". Like wtf. Then another vegan accused the indigenous person of "playing the race card". How completely tone deaf can people be?
it's more like "damn those privledged people are trying to shame me for my own culture, while they're responsible for most of the suffering in the world. they should probably just shut the fuck up and deal with their own issues"
What I'm saying should be completely obvious. When faced with the climate emergency that is largely the fault of Western white people for a multitude of reasons, why should I adjust my consumption habits? When the average American family's carbon footprint dwarfs anything my family could produce, when your billionaires burn enough fuel to make a villages footprint a rounding error, when your people are going to use the climate crisis as an excuse to vilify my people and shun them when the crisis your people created is at your doorstep.
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Clearly
No "the hamburger" isn't a cultural dish.
I'm not surprised you can't comprehend what I'm saying whitey. I know considering the point of other races isn't your strong suit.
No they typically eat meat too, they're just more wasteful in one lifetime than an entire village could ever be.
this is what they took from you
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Reverse cultural chauvinism isn't actually going to help anyone. You guys have to divert the conversation from the harm of animals to other tangential issues every time like this. Just chill out.
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Not who you are replying too, but the vast majority of militant vegans that I've met are upper middle class white people (not all, mind you) This group has a tendency to impose it's culture and values on other people, while also being responsible for upholding systems of oppression.
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:this:
Like that post oh here where a vegan told an indigenous person that didn't like their bit to go "read settlers". Like wtf. Then another vegan accused the indigenous person of "playing the race card". How completely tone deaf can people be?
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it's more like "damn those privledged people are trying to shame me for my own culture, while they're responsible for most of the suffering in the world. they should probably just shut the fuck up and deal with their own issues"
For the first time in this thread, I feel seen.
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Fuck off. Log off.
What I'm saying should be completely obvious. When faced with the climate emergency that is largely the fault of Western white people for a multitude of reasons, why should I adjust my consumption habits? When the average American family's carbon footprint dwarfs anything my family could produce, when your billionaires burn enough fuel to make a villages footprint a rounding error, when your people are going to use the climate crisis as an excuse to vilify my people and shun them when the crisis your people created is at your doorstep.
Why should I give a fuck?
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