Oh it literally does. Shit like this turns more people off of veganism than it converts. It's just really immature, it reminds me of the cringe one liners I would say once I started getting into anticapitalism.
How would you define tone policing, and how is it distinct from any criticism of tone whatsoever?
Say your buddy wants to convince your org to do some mutual aid project. He's going to make some remarks at your meeting tonight and he gives you his notes to look over. You think he's got a good idea for the project, but he's planning on insulting everyone right out of the gate and being as abrasive as possible when he takes questions.
Are you tone policing him if you say that's a bad idea?
Bernie didn't win, so we should be open to the idea that trolling people online might not be the most effective communication strategy.
Besides, being an ass should be reserved for chuds, not people who might be persuaded to agree with you. No one wants to be part of a group where everyone's just shitty to each other all the time.
I always think back to that "if you don't talk to them, someone else will" image that used to circulate. Reactionary ideas should definitely be called out and deried, but putting in the time and effort to reach out to people who are at least possibly sympathetic to your views is one of the small (but important) things any leftist can do.
You've missed out on cornering the reactionary vegan market tbh. As a capitalist, this is terrible modus operandi. Start advertising a lentils box or something.
The difference is that in this scenario the person starts believing the good thing, then turns away from it without a convincing argument. That indicates they never believed in it.
With Veganism, you have people starting as non-vegans, getting approached by vegans who are not making a good faith effort, not treating them with respect, make no progress, and everything stays the same.
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Oh it literally does. Shit like this turns more people off of veganism than it converts. It's just really immature, it reminds me of the cringe one liners I would say once I started getting into anticapitalism.
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The type of people you invite to a party once and then never again.
Yeah, as internet leftists it's a core belief of ours that bullying does not, in fact, work.
Fr though I was omni, got bullied, and now I'm vegan.
I used to support Medicare for all but then Bernie supporters were mean to me online :(
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No, this is exactly the same tone policing concern trolling that reactionaries do, that gets made fun of here so often.
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How would you define tone policing, and how is it distinct from any criticism of tone whatsoever?
Say your buddy wants to convince your org to do some mutual aid project. He's going to make some remarks at your meeting tonight and he gives you his notes to look over. You think he's got a good idea for the project, but he's planning on insulting everyone right out of the gate and being as abrasive as possible when he takes questions.
Are you tone policing him if you say that's a bad idea?
Bernie didn't win, so we should be open to the idea that trolling people online might not be the most effective communication strategy.
Besides, being an ass should be reserved for chuds, not people who might be persuaded to agree with you. No one wants to be part of a group where everyone's just shitty to each other all the time.
I always think back to that "if you don't talk to them, someone else will" image that used to circulate. Reactionary ideas should definitely be called out and deried, but putting in the time and effort to reach out to people who are at least possibly sympathetic to your views is one of the small (but important) things any leftist can do.
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You've missed out on cornering the reactionary vegan market tbh. As a capitalist, this is terrible modus operandi. Start advertising a lentils box or something.
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A capitalist turning down profit? I'm shocked I tell you! :shocked_porky:
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Understandable have a nice day
I'd support BLM if they weren't so pushy and demanding
The difference is that in this scenario the person starts believing the good thing, then turns away from it without a convincing argument. That indicates they never believed in it.
With Veganism, you have people starting as non-vegans, getting approached by vegans who are not making a good faith effort, not treating them with respect, make no progress, and everything stays the same.