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  • a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]
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    4 years ago

    Which is brought about by a change in how you think, just like all the other things I mentioned. My point is this struggle session isn't special.

    • howdyoudoo [comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Liking China = a change in thinking

      being vegan = a change in thinking, + a change in diet, + other stuff (leather, wool, etc)

      Liking China doesn't cost me anything, it's pretty easy to do. That was the point of my original comment.

      • a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]
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        4 years ago

        Liking China isn't anti-imperialism.

        Look the point is this struggle isn't any different from any other topic controversial in leftist spaces.

        • howdyoudoo [comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          but you're wrong, the struggle is inherently different.

          it's literally material conditions.

          Liking China isn't material. Being vegan is. Material > all.

            • howdyoudoo [comrade/them]
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              4 years ago

              Minutiae. But fine I'll change my comment.

              anti-imperialism = a change in thinking

              veganism = a change in thinking, + a change in diet, + other stuff (leather, wool, etc)

              • a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]
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                4 years ago

                Anti-imperialism also requires a change in actions as well. You seem to be hung up more on changing consumption habits. Which are distinct but I'm not convinced meaningfully when it comes to struggle sessions.

                • howdyoudoo [comrade/them]
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                  4 years ago

                  Anti-imperialism doesn't require a total and measurable discrete change in action.
                  Veganism does.

                  Everyone can claim to be Anti-imperialist in some sense, the borders have no definition.
                  Veganism, not so

                  therefore it is easier to be anti-imperialist than vegan.

                  You seem to be hung up more on changing consumption habits.

                  because that is a requirement for being vegan.

                  • a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]
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                    4 years ago

                    And your position is that this struggle session is different at a fundamental level because it's harder to not buy cheese than a SodaStream?