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Active sort might as well be controversial sort, because it sends posts with lots of comments straight to the top of the page even if they don't have a lot of upvotes. This leads to more and more shit-flinging and dogpiling.
You can take chapo out of Reddit, but you can't take the Reddit out of chapo.
Yeah, it’s a structural issue promoting certain behaviour:( also visible upvotes makes comments going back and forth sorta like battleground with cheering (or maybe that’s just me). maybe removing upvotes after certain depth (5 comments deep say, for an hour) can be helpful?
It's an unintended consequence of removing downvotes. Downvotes used to push controversial posts with lots of comments down on the page, but now it just looks like no one disagreed with the posts.
The algorithm should be re-written to be designed to work right without downvotes.
Yeah, I mentioned in megathread that comment tree is like legit tree, you can parametrize tallness (arguing) vs broadness (response to post) to number and adjust visibility weight by it
Hot really has been a lot better, thanks for the tip. Unfortunately like 90% of users are sequestered in the struggle session right now because active is the default, so the posts on hot are pretty dead. Mods really oughta change the default to hot until active sort is fixed.
Easy dirty fix (maybe) - after each post(or every 5 minutes, if the server is slow) take struggle_coef=sum(posti*posti_depth)/sum(posti), use then some coefficient to convert (like ramp(struggle_coef-2) and divide whatever weight algorithm is already giving. Also :Care-Comrade:
Edit: probably better algo-comrades are somewhere here, so maybe workshop it a little bit together with the site, would be good fun and community building
