JUST GIVE IT TO ME, YOU SHITHEADS. I DON'T CARE. YOU HAVE THE VACCINE BUT AREN'T USING IT WTF

  • Quimby [any, any]
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    4 years ago

    you know what else would solve this shit? if all the researchers and companies were working together to produce the best vaccines they could, instead of guarding their patents and knowledge like dragons hoarding gold. Nationalize everything, globalize everything.

  • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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    4 years ago

    tbh I'd rather have a vaccine that doesn't clog my arteries. I've been isolated this long... what's a little bit longer?

    • square [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      this blood clotting shit is a fucking facebook tier novaxxer meme, don't fall for it

      • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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        4 years ago

        how many governments have suspended its use now? I'm not a damn microbiologist and neither are you, I don't know shit about how to works. I don't think the EU wants to halt their vaccine distribution either but obviously it's enough of a concern for them to do so despite the costs.

        • square [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          suspension of a vaccine is a political choice, and is not reflective of scientific evidence

          or are you trying to tell me that, in reality, governments are *rushing * to deal with climate change?

        • space_comrade [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          how many governments have suspended its use now?

          The governments are being dumb and are scared of their antivaxxers losing their shit, there's already quite a bit of protests due to lockdowns.

        • Barabas [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Governments do counterproductive things for little reason fairly often. Look at how nuclear power is treated in Germany for example, they switched over to lignite for power production releasing magnitudes more radiation not to mention other effects.

          Fukishima was the cause for a load of shutdowns, but I'd be surprised if there was a tsunami in Bavaria.

    • Hungover [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      idk about the US, but this just happened in Germany (and many other european nations). We have the Astrazeneca vaccine here, physically, and don't use it because seven people got a brain thrombosis out of the 1.6 million people that got it. It's not even clear as of now whether the complications were caused by the vaccine

      • thefunkycomitatus [he/him,they/them]
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        4 years ago

        The reason prescription meds have so many side effects is because, during trials, you have to record any symptom from the subject. So if even if the client gets a headache from dehydration or a stomach ache from eating too much candy, that has to be part of the study. So what ends up happening is that you get a list of side effects that may or may not actually be caused by the medication. I'm sure I'm oversimplifying it as there are ways to root out statistical outliers from studies. But I assume that these vaccine rollout are basically doing the same thing. If someone has a heart attack 30 mins after getting the vaccine ,they will count that.

        While it sucks because it means holding up the rollout process, I can see why they do this. Because everything isn't immediately clear. You wouldn't want to keep going and then find out in a year that your vaccine did have some effect on blood clotting.

        This is why you don't put all your eggs on a new vaccine technology during a crisis and it's why patents and development information needs to be public. Rather than having to depend on a single company's vaccine there could be a replacement right behind it ready to go.

        • Hungover [he/him]
          hexagon
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          4 years ago

          On the other hand, even if the clotting is caused by the vaccine, it might still be a better idea to just continue with it.

          We already have the doses and not using them would result in 500k fewer people getting the vaccine per week. Of those people, some will get covid, and more than average will die from it, because the people currently getting the vaccine are the populations that are most at risk.

          Continuing despite the risks might be the option that saves more lives in the end

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        :germany-cool:

        South Africa had to sell its one million doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine because it was ineffective against the South African variant of Covid 19.

  • space_comrade [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    It's the dumbest shit. The incidence is like 1 in a million and it's not even confirmed but the politicians are being cautious because they're scared of antivaxxers.

  • RowPin [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    I can't believe America is going to get to be Spongebob & Patrick running outside, jovially playing, whilst Europoor Squidward has to stay inside for another year.