he's also going against one of the former governors of Virginia, and yeah the polls I've seen has him at single digits, I'm happy for him but it's a longshot
The serious answer is no. He's already had to take a month off fundraising to maintain his seat in the legislature (active state legislators can't fundraise during legislative sessions), and a lot of the local progressive orgs like Justice Democrats and the local Sunrise chapter have backed another candidate (Jennifer Carroll Foy), in large part because they perceive her as more able to win. It's already tough for a socialist to win statewide, never mind someone who really can only campaign part-time. I think it's fair to say this campaign is more about building name recognition/statewide support for a future run, which is fine. Plenty of campaigns are run basically for that purpose.
Is support for Jennifer Carroll Foy somehow hamstringing leftism? She's a public defender by trade and seems to support a raft of progressive policies. She's also campaigning full-time, having announced no intention to run for State House again in order to focus entirely on the gubernatorial bid.
Yes, when a rather well liked leftist figure is running, stop trying to siphon voters off them by pushing some lukewarm progressive. They should have at least discussed this with Lee Carter so that they could determine the best course of action, rather than taking things into their own hands and watering down the playing field, allowing some neoliberal (who understands that once someone takes the lead, everyone else backs down to consolidate their voting base) to win off some technicality. This is literally Warren all over again, and you're falling hook line and sinker for it
They should have at least discussed this with Lee Carter so that they could determine the best course of action, rather than taking things into their own hands and watering down the playing field
I mean, do we know anything about the back end of this gubernatorial fight? Lee's not making this his full time job. He's still running concurrently for State House. That makes me think he knows he's a long-shot and isn't fully committed. He's potentially just a stalking horse for leftist agenda items and knows it.
This is literally Warren all over again, and you’re falling hook line and sinker for it
Sanders lobbied for Warren to run in 2016 and she turned him down to endorse Hillary prematurely. This is a distant cry from Sanders v Warren.
That makes me think he knows he’s a long-shot and isn’t fully committed
Of course he's not fully committed, any leftist worth their salt would know that the succdems and progressives would rather gun him down in the street than to offer even the most token support to him
Sanders lobbied for Warren to run in 2016 and she turned him down to endorse Hillary prematurely. This is a distant cry from Sanders v Warren.
Because there is one dissimilarity it means that this "progressive" challenger isn't here to punch left. Is the next thing you're gonna say that Carter is neither old nor Jewish, and therefore cannot be compared to Sanders?
Then why are you complaining when other leftist organizations aren't going out-of-pocket to help out a half-baked bid?
succdems and progressives would rather gun him down in the street
They're backing another candidate who is campaigning full time, not murdering him in a back alley. FFS my dude, have an ounce of perspective.
Because there is one dissimilarity it means that this “progressive” challenger isn’t here to punch left.
It means you're engaging in some wild revisionism and false-equivalency, because you want to slap snake emojis on a candidate whose primary crime appears to be winning the endorsements you wanted your candidate to get.
Then why are you complaining when other leftist organizations aren’t going out-of-pocket to help out a half-baked bid?
Because there is a negative chance that they would help him if he fully committed, and everyone here (except you) sees that plain as day?
They’re backing another candidate who is campaigning full time, not murdering him in a back alley. FFS my dude, have an ounce of perspective.
I'm talking about what they'd prefer, not what they did holy fuck. Yea they didn't murder him but they're sure as hell not supporting him, and THEY WILL NEVER support him
It means you’re engaging in some wild revisionism and false-equivalency, because you want to slap snake emojis on a candidate whose primary crime appears to be winning the endorsements you wanted your candidate to get.
Oh you're a Warren stan, talking to you is a waste of my fucking time
P.S. Bernie is shit and he's still better than your imperialist girlboss slay kween
Ah yes we should forgive people for their bad takes when they don't even think they were bad takes or apologize for them because surely it doesn't indicate some underlying belief or flaw that will lead to awful outcomes if granted power in the future!
Can he actually win this? He polled 1% and 6% on the only (and very tiny) polls I found.
he's also going against one of the former governors of Virginia, and yeah the polls I've seen has him at single digits, I'm happy for him but it's a longshot
Terry Mcauliffe, who didn't participate in the debate and isn't listed in the Twitter poll.
The serious answer is no. He's already had to take a month off fundraising to maintain his seat in the legislature (active state legislators can't fundraise during legislative sessions), and a lot of the local progressive orgs like Justice Democrats and the local Sunrise chapter have backed another candidate (Jennifer Carroll Foy), in large part because they perceive her as more able to win. It's already tough for a socialist to win statewide, never mind someone who really can only campaign part-time. I think it's fair to say this campaign is more about building name recognition/statewide support for a future run, which is fine. Plenty of campaigns are run basically for that purpose.
Why am I not surprised progressives do nothing but hamstring anyone to the left of them?
Is support for Jennifer Carroll Foy somehow hamstringing leftism? She's a public defender by trade and seems to support a raft of progressive policies. She's also campaigning full-time, having announced no intention to run for State House again in order to focus entirely on the gubernatorial bid.
Yes, when a rather well liked leftist figure is running, stop trying to siphon voters off them by pushing some lukewarm progressive. They should have at least discussed this with Lee Carter so that they could determine the best course of action, rather than taking things into their own hands and watering down the playing field, allowing some neoliberal (who understands that once someone takes the lead, everyone else backs down to consolidate their voting base) to win off some technicality. This is literally Warren all over again, and you're falling hook line and sinker for it
I mean, do we know anything about the back end of this gubernatorial fight? Lee's not making this his full time job. He's still running concurrently for State House. That makes me think he knows he's a long-shot and isn't fully committed. He's potentially just a stalking horse for leftist agenda items and knows it.
Sanders lobbied for Warren to run in 2016 and she turned him down to endorse Hillary prematurely. This is a distant cry from Sanders v Warren.
Of course he's not fully committed, any leftist worth their salt would know that the succdems and progressives would rather gun him down in the street than to offer even the most token support to him
Because there is one dissimilarity it means that this "progressive" challenger isn't here to punch left. Is the next thing you're gonna say that Carter is neither old nor Jewish, and therefore cannot be compared to Sanders?
Then why are you complaining when other leftist organizations aren't going out-of-pocket to help out a half-baked bid?
They're backing another candidate who is campaigning full time, not murdering him in a back alley. FFS my dude, have an ounce of perspective.
It means you're engaging in some wild revisionism and false-equivalency, because you want to slap snake emojis on a candidate whose primary crime appears to be winning the endorsements you wanted your candidate to get.
Because there is a negative chance that they would help him if he fully committed, and everyone here (except you) sees that plain as day?
I'm talking about what they'd prefer, not what they did holy fuck. Yea they didn't murder him but they're sure as hell not supporting him, and THEY WILL NEVER support him
Oh you're a Warren stan, talking to you is a waste of my fucking time
P.S. Bernie is shit and he's still better than your imperialist girlboss slay kween
Blackpilled.
You hate to see it.
Why yes I think that the best person to lead the most genocidal nation to ever exist is someone who wants to nuke Yugoslavia
You're about 30 years late to the party, if that's your biggest foreign policy concern.
Ah yes we should forgive people for their bad takes when they don't even think they were bad takes or apologize for them because surely it doesn't indicate some underlying belief or flaw that will lead to awful outcomes if granted power in the future!
This is pure word salad.
The reason I dunk on Bernie for wanting to nuke Yugoslavia in the past is not because I believe he will nuke them if he takes power in the future.
It's because in order to have that opinion, he must have some underlying belief or flaw that leads to him having held that opinion in the past
I believe that belief or flaw will lead to awful outcomes in the future
Just because you are illiterate doesn't mean everyone else is
#Winning
Still not doing anything to address my original point that you lukewarm progressives do nothing but hamstring the left
I think the point is probably to build name recognition