Its arguably a more politically savy or aware answer...but I will never give Trump credit for being "right".
When someone like Chomsky points out the human rights abuses or general non-innocence of the United States he does it as a way to frame criticism of the united states and as a way to highlight that we like to judge our enemies by their actions and ourselves by our stated intentions.
Trump, in this clip, does the inverse and uses the sins of the united states to do apologetics for Putin and in the process normalizes both.
Yeah. But from a centrist standpoint, it's shocking to even imagine that America is anything but innocent. So I'd say Trump is still more "technically correct" than Biden.
Sure...but to use a timely example this feels like pedantic nerds bitching online today over whether Whedon or Snyder's cut of Justice league is better. Better is relative. The most correct take is they both missed the mark by a huge margin and are complete dogshit for similar and different reasons.
Yeah this is just killer solidarity. I'm reminded of the end of his term when he pushed as many executions as possible. It's still jarring how open he is about it though
Who is giving credit to Trump? We are recognizing new rhetorical tools to convince people that America is bad. Trump is not an anomaly, he is America distilled, and the Dems have allowed his kind to spawn under a regime of economic austerity and imperialism. It is very hard for insulated liberals to pretend that things are okay in this country, and this is not because Trump agrees, i think he strongly disagrees, but reveals where we are really at and it is hard to ignore this.
Your post highlights exactly my issue with trump's words. There is a subtle but important rhetorical distinction at play in what he says that shifts everything and is important to recognize.
Trump essentially turns what should be critiques and contradictions in US foreign policy on its head to basically say "So putin kills people. So what? We kill people all the the time and I don't know if you know this; we're fucking awesome!"
I agree and it is doubly blameworthy. This in turn could become recognized as indefensible. Maybe not, maybe I am too hopeful, but there is no facade of "well it's for the good of the world/somebody else." It is outright evil and I am hopeful that Americans can come to see that.
Its arguably a more politically savy or aware answer...but I will never give Trump credit for being "right".
When someone like Chomsky points out the human rights abuses or general non-innocence of the United States he does it as a way to frame criticism of the united states and as a way to highlight that we like to judge our enemies by their actions and ourselves by our stated intentions.
Trump, in this clip, does the inverse and uses the sins of the united states to do apologetics for Putin and in the process normalizes both.
Yeah. But from a centrist standpoint, it's shocking to even imagine that America is anything but innocent. So I'd say Trump is still more "technically correct" than Biden.
Sure...but to use a timely example this feels like pedantic nerds bitching online today over whether Whedon or Snyder's cut of Justice league is better. Better is relative. The most correct take is they both missed the mark by a huge margin and are complete dogshit for similar and different reasons.
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Yeah this is just killer solidarity. I'm reminded of the end of his term when he pushed as many executions as possible. It's still jarring how open he is about it though
Who is giving credit to Trump? We are recognizing new rhetorical tools to convince people that America is bad. Trump is not an anomaly, he is America distilled, and the Dems have allowed his kind to spawn under a regime of economic austerity and imperialism. It is very hard for insulated liberals to pretend that things are okay in this country, and this is not because Trump agrees, i think he strongly disagrees, but reveals where we are really at and it is hard to ignore this.
The tweet is about giving trump credit, lol.
Your post highlights exactly my issue with trump's words. There is a subtle but important rhetorical distinction at play in what he says that shifts everything and is important to recognize.
Trump essentially turns what should be critiques and contradictions in US foreign policy on its head to basically say "So putin kills people. So what? We kill people all the the time and I don't know if you know this; we're fucking awesome!"
I agree and it is doubly blameworthy. This in turn could become recognized as indefensible. Maybe not, maybe I am too hopeful, but there is no facade of "well it's for the good of the world/somebody else." It is outright evil and I am hopeful that Americans can come to see that.