Mainstream vegan sub is capitalism.. It's a completely different perspective. And a lot of libs/capitalists hate CTH sub ppl and think we're assholes so your point is quite idiotic indeed.
I don't agree at all, most of what I can find on it shows that anti capitalist sentiments are rather popular. Just from a quick search of "capitalism" I found https://www.reddit.com/r/vegan/comments/lrnm7z/veganism_is_cheap_plantbased_capitalism_is_fraud/, and https://www.reddit.com/r/vegan/comments/fx4uhl/veganism_makes_me_despise_capitalism/ and https://www.reddit.com/r/vegan/comments/dgw231/what_stage_of_capitalism_is_it_when_you_think/ and even a poll with the large majority of responses being that they're anti capitalist https://www.reddit.com/r/vegan/comments/lugzhh/as_a_vegan_are_you_anticapitalist/
Just because they kick you out for yelling at members excited for vegan options at fast food restaurants doesn't mean they are "fake non vegan capitalists" in disguise like VCJ says they are.
You don't agree because you've never been on the r/vegan sub, you literally just went there to do a quick search. Most of us have been there for years and see the types of posts (I've personally been there for 5 years). They have completely different approaches to animal liberation.
This argument from the same places that defines all non vegans as anti leftist (including people like Castro or Mao) falls rather flat to me then to say that main sub isn't. If you're already way more exclusive with the word than others, who is to say that you aren't for /r/vegan? I've legit seen complaints that /r/vegan is too capitalist because they wanted to eat a vegan burger.
I can't do the marxism/vegan view justice myself in one post, but from the theory sub if anyone actually cared to read it:
Marxists, in turn, do not hold animal liberation activists
in particularly high regard either: they are often seen as
strange ascetics and bourgeois moralists who invest
themselves in negligible causes instead of focusing on
the key issues. They are expected to take part in actions
and alliances for class struggle, but to leave their ‗animal
craze‘ at the door. Many comrades break out in cold
sweat when they ponder a society in which both humans
and animals alike are liberated from exploitation and
oppression, since it would mean giving up their meat and
cheese. And anyway: Friedrich Engels already made fun
of the ―Herren Vegetarianer‖ who underestimated the
importance of meat consumption in the history of human
civilization and who were, at best, utopian socialists.
Nevertheless, we reject this opposition and believe that
the historical materialist analysis and critique of society
developed by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, the corre-
sponding politics and the call to liberate animals from
their socially produced suffering all necessarily belong
together. On the one hand, demands for animal liberation
are indeed moralist if they do not analyse the historically
specific conditions in which the exploitation of animals
is taking place and which social changes are necessary to
end it. On the other hand, however, every Marxist
critique of society remains incomplete if it does not
consider the fact that, to make profits, the ruling classes
have not only exploited the oppressed classes within the
history of class struggle, but also and always animals
(and nature).
When you ban there are no actual explanations given so this reeks of admins having personal vendettas.
When you unban people (I see LiberalTears is now unbanned), you don't give any explanation for why they were banned and what was wrong with your ban, so this reeks of not having any clear standards for banning
You don't care about removing posts that are clear bait from the omni side (obvious example is here: https://hexbear.net/post/94769
And see this is my point, you just banned the dude with a ton of numbers in his username for "shit stirring" even though he's in the VEGAN comm defending the vegan perspective from omnis which are shitting on vegans here. (Ignoring Rule 2 of the godamn sub).
Yeah I saw Maarskapone posting in the discord asking what the procedure for coming back on was and they seem to genuinely want to engage in a broad leftist website. That said, give the admins time they said they would review the bans and they've been doing so, people are just tired rn and burnt out.
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Mainstream vegan sub is capitalism.. It's a completely different perspective. And a lot of libs/capitalists hate CTH sub ppl and think we're assholes so your point is quite idiotic indeed.
The most reddit ass brain right here
I don't agree at all, most of what I can find on it shows that anti capitalist sentiments are rather popular. Just from a quick search of "capitalism" I found https://www.reddit.com/r/vegan/comments/lrnm7z/veganism_is_cheap_plantbased_capitalism_is_fraud/, and https://www.reddit.com/r/vegan/comments/fx4uhl/veganism_makes_me_despise_capitalism/ and https://www.reddit.com/r/vegan/comments/dgw231/what_stage_of_capitalism_is_it_when_you_think/ and even a poll with the large majority of responses being that they're anti capitalist https://www.reddit.com/r/vegan/comments/lugzhh/as_a_vegan_are_you_anticapitalist/
Just because they kick you out for yelling at members excited for vegan options at fast food restaurants doesn't mean they are "fake non vegan capitalists" in disguise like VCJ says they are.
You don't agree because you've never been on the r/vegan sub, you literally just went there to do a quick search. Most of us have been there for years and see the types of posts (I've personally been there for 5 years). They have completely different approaches to animal liberation.
This argument from the same places that defines all non vegans as anti leftist (including people like Castro or Mao) falls rather flat to me then to say that main sub isn't. If you're already way more exclusive with the word than others, who is to say that you aren't for /r/vegan? I've legit seen complaints that /r/vegan is too capitalist because they wanted to eat a vegan burger.
I can't do the marxism/vegan view justice myself in one post, but from the theory sub if anyone actually cared to read it:
One is a lot more green capitalism than the other.
Anticapitalism that isn't affirmatively socialist is just capitalism with extra steps.
You banned Maarskapone for following the new rule and only posting vegan stuff in strugglesession. Don't act like you're just banning wreckers.
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Ok but firstly,
When you ban there are no actual explanations given so this reeks of admins having personal vendettas.
When you unban people (I see LiberalTears is now unbanned), you don't give any explanation for why they were banned and what was wrong with your ban, so this reeks of not having any clear standards for banning
You don't care about removing posts that are clear bait from the omni side (obvious example is here: https://hexbear.net/post/94769
And see this is my point, you just banned the dude with a ton of numbers in his username for "shit stirring" even though he's in the VEGAN comm defending the vegan perspective from omnis which are shitting on vegans here. (Ignoring Rule 2 of the godamn sub).
Yeah I saw Maarskapone posting in the discord asking what the procedure for coming back on was and they seem to genuinely want to engage in a broad leftist website. That said, give the admins time they said they would review the bans and they've been doing so, people are just tired rn and burnt out.
Revisionist! Sounds a lot like “On the Circle of Jerking and Its Consequences” to me.
:corn-man-khrush: :stalin-stressed:
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They made a website and everything for liberals to hang out!
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i'm right here