Nah, biblically accurate angels aren't really that scary tbf.
I've met a few and while they do emanate an incomprehensible aura they aren't scary per say. It's more like reality is breaking as your human mind struggles to comprehend. It's not a pleasant sensation at first but you can get used to it surprisingly quickly.
They do feel bad and try to make it as painless as possible for humans. They don't take pleasure in scaring you and would prefer to just appear as humans. The problem is that monkey brains just wouldn't listen as much to a humanoid telling you to do things.
It's not a joke, I'd highly recommend you try talking to one if you want their perspective on the issue.
While they aren't that hurt by you thinking of them as eldritch monsters, you still shouldn't do it. They're not a monolith of course, but I've never met one that enjoyed the fear they create in people. The old Abrahamic "unfeeling servants of God" is only half true. Some are like that but most are surprisingly sensitive to suffering. They just try not to make it about themselves because they're the ones overstepping, even though it's for a good cause.
Sure, I do magic, astral projection, and lucid dreaming. This doesn't mesh well with communism so I usually hide it. I may also just be delusional or have some sort of undiagnosed condition. That makes more sense logically and is what I personally think is happening. But I have fun and it doesn't intrude on my personal life so who cares.
I've met a few and here's what I've been told. They're essentially non-human spirits with some allegiance to a higher power. Not a God per say but a "piece of god" as they've described it. What we describe as Gods are entities with some sort of connection to the Eternal Source of all things from which all souls and energy comes from. Certain gods claim to be "the whole" of this power but others are more hesitant. Angels are spirits contracted under one of these gods and are usually created by the god in question. As opposed to "demons" who either spring up naturally from energy or are separated from their creator god.
Their interest in the material realm is two-fold. One, they seek to harvest earth energy, which we can think of as matter, because it is a valuable resource in the astral plane. It acts as a ground in which harmful/unnecessary energy can be directed. This is also why magic is weaker on the material plane. Anything you could do on the astral would require a shit ton more energy in the material. This has also given us protection from the outside astral. Their second interest is in following the human scientific process of understanding the universe. Like I mentioned earlier, the Eternal Source is a big deal in the astral. Their magicians are constantly seeking new ways to use and understand it. They hope that by us studying the universe, we'll reveal more about their portion of it.
As for personal interactions, they're pretty friendly for the most part. I can't describe exactly what I've seen because they request anonymity. I can say that biblically accurate angels are largely accurate. I would describe them differently, but I can see how someone without an understanding of particles/waves would come up with that description.
My mind literally prevents me from getting horny dreams.
I had a lucid one last night and saw a nice girl who looked like a crush I had in school. I could literally feel the dream ending until I said I just wanted to talk about our time in high school. It immediately stabilized and we had a nice chat for a few minutes.
What methods do you use to lucid dream? I've tried to fulfill my dreams of shooting up trenches full of nazis in my sleep (video games just aren't the same!!111!) but failed, are there any specific things you do?
I wake up an hour early in the morning and immediately roll on to my stomach to sleep. I can't sleep on my stomach usually but when I'm half asleep it's a breeze. I still feel some connection to the body which enables me to enter a dream lucidly. I've gotten about 2-3 lucid dreams a week this way and I stumbled upon it completely unintentionally.
MILD and WILD also exist but I've never found success in those. Dreams are unstable by design, you need to learn to be present but still calm enough. Get a dream journal, try some techniques, but don't really make it an obsession. You ultimately can't control when you lucid dream as a beginner, I can't even control the when as a more experienced person. All you can do is make the right conditions and wait. You'll get the hang of it if you try, but getting there is hard.
Keeping a dream journal is a classic one, just write your dreams first thing when get up in the morning. Then there's methods, an easy one is reality checks for example if you can breathe through a pinched nose, break laws of physics or have really weird hands/whatever versus normally it's a good chance you're in a dream. Do note dreams are ruled by expectations if you expect xyz you will get xyz.
When I really want to put effort into LDing I keep a scrap of paper like a receipt etc (or I guess a phone would work) and I just scrawl my memories first thing on waking up on that then transfer to a dream journal if I feel like it.
Lucid dreaming may be socially odd but should be fine, Caudwell wrote about it hypothetically (guy didn't know it existed) as a tool to explore potential praxis but worried when they weren't shared it'd recreate all the errors of old fashioned religion (and ofc escapism). Neurosci/psych agree on lding being existent, the question 10 years ago was were really conscious during them or just remembering so, some of the older neuropsychs are still adamant we're not really conscious during them (Damasio comes to mind for a famous one), imaging studies looked promising, and since this is story telling by the campfire, tbh I've been more lucid in some dreams than I have at work or trips to the grocery store, then again I'm an lding natural, so its like twice a week with next to 0 effort for me.
Rest heck if I know, I'm pretty hard materialist but I'm of the mind if the bourgeois use all sorts of symbolism etc as a tool as should we, no tool should be off the table. There was an old USSR film where Mullah Nasreddin pretended to be an astrologer to avoid the king's wraith. Now, I wouldn't do that in current conditions since there's as many laws still in the books against astrologers and similar in the west esp Burgerland as there are against reds, but there shows some potential use.
Can confirm, though that projection of fear is a real common things like them do, if you do any APing you'll run into all sorts of things that do it, though theirs is ngl quite a bit extra and matched with their unique appearance, wild auras and brightness there's no room for imitation. Anyway, figuring out that fear thing it's an illusion its easier not to be rocked with it. They also project love, mercy etc. They have all sorts of emotions, human like and very very different, hard to tell if those are projections as well or some mirroring done to understand us better. If you do extensive AP they and machine elves are super easy to spot in places way beyond that net, usually encounter them guarding shit and learned to not fuck with what they are nor them since if you see them guarding since it's like messing with the guards of the emotional equivalent of a nuclear wastes pit most of the time.
They also don't really seem to talk much, they prefer to do images, basically the guy talking in memes meme, though one tried to speak to me in Aramaic and I don't know that , and they didn't care I didn't know it was some deep symbolic thing. Glossolalia is another thing they do, especially when singing.
I doubt they are 'angels' they're some strange Jungian collective unconscious psychological benevolence thing at standard or some sort of other dimensional being to be fun. For the later they'd be like corvid researchers and we'd be the crows, that 'demon' thing they do is one of the masks they put on to study us more. They do share a lot of 'comradish' stuff and good will, but the former makes me think more of middle age peasants rebels/nonsci comrades ala Thomas Muentzer, its just simply too ideal but they appear to be beautiful creatures of the ideal that like to help us mostly (or believe they are helping us ultimately, they are very alien and we are nothing alike), so that checks out.
Your experiences check out almost 1:1 with my own when I was doing DMT and other substances. I think most of what you're interacting with have been the back-end angels who mostly stumble upon or are stumbled upon by humans.
I've found them to be a little less incomprehensible if you meet some more human-facing ones. Although, since they mostly communicate with emotions/meanings, we could also be talking about two different entities that both translated as "angels." I've mostly spent my time concentrated on spirits within earth and have only taken minor forays into the Astral. Even then, it's been under watch and protection.
Sounds good to me, I figure I usually meet the weird background ones because I'm poking around AP where I probably shouldn't, or so some have told me. Can't explore RL too much, too broke, can explore weird stuff a whole ton since that's free. I'm too broke for drugs, I do meditation that has similar effects though and probably had 1 too many traumatic events to counter that.
The main 3 I've encountered are hyperspace gemstone wheels with eyes (they move weird, makes me think of Sagan's hypercube), 'holy creatures', these weird 4 parted things folded like paper fortune tellers that also have super fast hyperspace movement part minotaur, big cat, bird of prey with an incredibly bright nuclear-blast glow aura, they love to stare deep into your soul-mind, or give that sense, and speak in incomprehensible languages and if you do comprehend them its cause they had it with you and want to be clear, and snakes with like 6 wings that warp space around them so they're usually a ball telling me to . Snakes and wheels are cool, the 'holy creatures' are on business and have 0 chill, I get the sense they very rarely interact with people, they're also rare to encounter.
Nah, biblically accurate angels aren't really that scary tbf.
I've met a few and while they do emanate an incomprehensible aura they aren't scary per say. It's more like reality is breaking as your human mind struggles to comprehend. It's not a pleasant sensation at first but you can get used to it surprisingly quickly.
They do feel bad and try to make it as painless as possible for humans. They don't take pleasure in scaring you and would prefer to just appear as humans. The problem is that monkey brains just wouldn't listen as much to a humanoid telling you to do things.
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It's not a joke, I'd highly recommend you try talking to one if you want their perspective on the issue.
While they aren't that hurt by you thinking of them as eldritch monsters, you still shouldn't do it. They're not a monolith of course, but I've never met one that enjoyed the fear they create in people. The old Abrahamic "unfeeling servants of God" is only half true. Some are like that but most are surprisingly sensitive to suffering. They just try not to make it about themselves because they're the ones overstepping, even though it's for a good cause.
Can you tell me about your experiences talking to angels?
Sure, I do magic, astral projection, and lucid dreaming. This doesn't mesh well with communism so I usually hide it. I may also just be delusional or have some sort of undiagnosed condition. That makes more sense logically and is what I personally think is happening. But I have fun and it doesn't intrude on my personal life so who cares.
I've met a few and here's what I've been told. They're essentially non-human spirits with some allegiance to a higher power. Not a God per say but a "piece of god" as they've described it. What we describe as Gods are entities with some sort of connection to the Eternal Source of all things from which all souls and energy comes from. Certain gods claim to be "the whole" of this power but others are more hesitant. Angels are spirits contracted under one of these gods and are usually created by the god in question. As opposed to "demons" who either spring up naturally from energy or are separated from their creator god.
Their interest in the material realm is two-fold. One, they seek to harvest earth energy, which we can think of as matter, because it is a valuable resource in the astral plane. It acts as a ground in which harmful/unnecessary energy can be directed. This is also why magic is weaker on the material plane. Anything you could do on the astral would require a shit ton more energy in the material. This has also given us protection from the outside astral. Their second interest is in following the human scientific process of understanding the universe. Like I mentioned earlier, the Eternal Source is a big deal in the astral. Their magicians are constantly seeking new ways to use and understand it. They hope that by us studying the universe, we'll reveal more about their portion of it.
As for personal interactions, they're pretty friendly for the most part. I can't describe exactly what I've seen because they request anonymity. I can say that biblically accurate angels are largely accurate. I would describe them differently, but I can see how someone without an understanding of particles/waves would come up with that description.
Or I could just be delusional ymmv.
I just use my dream powers to get horny dreams. Maybe I should be more ambitious.
My mind literally prevents me from getting horny dreams.
I had a lucid one last night and saw a nice girl who looked like a crush I had in school. I could literally feel the dream ending until I said I just wanted to talk about our time in high school. It immediately stabilized and we had a nice chat for a few minutes.
What methods do you use to lucid dream? I've tried to fulfill my dreams of shooting up trenches full of nazis in my sleep (video games just aren't the same!!111!) but failed, are there any specific things you do?
I wake up an hour early in the morning and immediately roll on to my stomach to sleep. I can't sleep on my stomach usually but when I'm half asleep it's a breeze. I still feel some connection to the body which enables me to enter a dream lucidly. I've gotten about 2-3 lucid dreams a week this way and I stumbled upon it completely unintentionally.
MILD and WILD also exist but I've never found success in those. Dreams are unstable by design, you need to learn to be present but still calm enough. Get a dream journal, try some techniques, but don't really make it an obsession. You ultimately can't control when you lucid dream as a beginner, I can't even control the when as a more experienced person. All you can do is make the right conditions and wait. You'll get the hang of it if you try, but getting there is hard.
Keeping a dream journal is a classic one, just write your dreams first thing when get up in the morning. Then there's methods, an easy one is reality checks for example if you can breathe through a pinched nose, break laws of physics or have really weird hands/whatever versus normally it's a good chance you're in a dream. Do note dreams are ruled by expectations if you expect xyz you will get xyz.
Gotcha. I had a dream journal but I keep forgetting to write in it lol, same goes for reality checks.
When I really want to put effort into LDing I keep a scrap of paper like a receipt etc (or I guess a phone would work) and I just scrawl my memories first thing on waking up on that then transfer to a dream journal if I feel like it.
Lucid dreaming may be socially odd but should be fine, Caudwell wrote about it hypothetically (guy didn't know it existed) as a tool to explore potential praxis but worried when they weren't shared it'd recreate all the errors of old fashioned religion (and ofc escapism). Neurosci/psych agree on lding being existent, the question 10 years ago was were really conscious during them or just remembering so, some of the older neuropsychs are still adamant we're not really conscious during them (Damasio comes to mind for a famous one), imaging studies looked promising, and since this is story telling by the campfire, tbh I've been more lucid in some dreams than I have at work or trips to the grocery store, then again I'm an lding natural, so its like twice a week with next to 0 effort for me.
Rest heck if I know, I'm pretty hard materialist but I'm of the mind if the bourgeois use all sorts of symbolism etc as a tool as should we, no tool should be off the table. There was an old USSR film where Mullah Nasreddin pretended to be an astrologer to avoid the king's wraith. Now, I wouldn't do that in current conditions since there's as many laws still in the books against astrologers and similar in the west esp Burgerland as there are against reds, but there shows some potential use.
This is the thing that always bothers me about magic is that I know I can't do it.
well they must be feeling because lucifer's rebellion was a result of his wounded pride which is a feeling
Can confirm, though that projection of fear is a real common things like them do, if you do any APing you'll run into all sorts of things that do it, though theirs is ngl quite a bit extra and matched with their unique appearance, wild auras and brightness there's no room for imitation. Anyway, figuring out that fear thing it's an illusion its easier not to be rocked with it. They also project love, mercy etc. They have all sorts of emotions, human like and very very different, hard to tell if those are projections as well or some mirroring done to understand us better. If you do extensive AP they and machine elves are super easy to spot in places way beyond that net, usually encounter them guarding shit and learned to not fuck with what they are nor them since if you see them guarding since it's like messing with the guards of the emotional equivalent of a nuclear wastes pit most of the time.
They also don't really seem to talk much, they prefer to do images, basically the guy talking in memes meme, though one tried to speak to me in Aramaic and I don't know that , and they didn't care I didn't know it was some deep symbolic thing. Glossolalia is another thing they do, especially when singing.
I doubt they are 'angels' they're some strange Jungian collective unconscious psychological benevolence thing at standard or some sort of other dimensional being to be fun. For the later they'd be like corvid researchers and we'd be the crows, that 'demon' thing they do is one of the masks they put on to study us more. They do share a lot of 'comradish' stuff and good will, but the former makes me think more of middle age peasants rebels/nonsci comrades ala Thomas Muentzer, its just simply too ideal but they appear to be beautiful creatures of the ideal that like to help us mostly (or believe they are helping us ultimately, they are very alien and we are nothing alike), so that checks out.
Your experiences check out almost 1:1 with my own when I was doing DMT and other substances. I think most of what you're interacting with have been the back-end angels who mostly stumble upon or are stumbled upon by humans.
I've found them to be a little less incomprehensible if you meet some more human-facing ones. Although, since they mostly communicate with emotions/meanings, we could also be talking about two different entities that both translated as "angels." I've mostly spent my time concentrated on spirits within earth and have only taken minor forays into the Astral. Even then, it's been under watch and protection.
Sounds good to me, I figure I usually meet the weird background ones because I'm poking around AP where I probably shouldn't, or so some have told me. Can't explore RL too much, too broke, can explore weird stuff a whole ton since that's free. I'm too broke for drugs, I do meditation that has similar effects though and probably had 1 too many traumatic events to counter that.
The main 3 I've encountered are hyperspace gemstone wheels with eyes (they move weird, makes me think of Sagan's hypercube), 'holy creatures', these weird 4 parted things folded like paper fortune tellers that also have super fast hyperspace movement part minotaur, big cat, bird of prey with an incredibly bright nuclear-blast glow aura, they love to stare deep into your soul-mind, or give that sense, and speak in incomprehensible languages and if you do comprehend them its cause they had it with you and want to be clear, and snakes with like 6 wings that warp space around them so they're usually a ball telling me to
. Snakes and wheels are cool, the 'holy creatures' are on business and have 0 chill, I get the sense they very rarely interact with people, they're also rare to encounter.
While not scary it would appear they have left fragments of being Douglas Adams in your mind