It’s not the denouncing socialists part that gets me. The headline is clickbaity and that’s not really accurate.
It’s the her saying that criticizing Biden erases the undocumented members of the community who aren’t being deported because of Biden. HE DIDNT STOP DEPORTATIONS HOLY SHIT YOU ARENT DUMB YOURE JUST BEING CYNICAL OR LYING.
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We have to compromise with the Freikorps, don't you understand the nuance?
I agree. We need more progressive women like Abigail spanbergler who reflect our countries purple reality
She's just another dem establishment hack, just ignore her shit's a trap for people just getting into leftism to funnel them right back into the democrat party.
In the interview, Ocasio-Cortez presents the Democratic Party as having been completely transformed into a working class party. She says the Biden administration and incumbent Democrats are “totally reinvent[ing] themselves in a far more progressive direction.” Pressure from the left has forced “almost a radical change” among entrenched Democratic leaders.
Broke: Denmark is socialism
Woke: The Democratic Party is now socialism
Biden administration and incumbent Democrats are “totally reinvent[ing] themselves in a far more progressive direction.” Pressure from the left has forced “almost a radical change” among entrenched Democratic leaders.
ahahahahahhahahahahaha come on. I know socdems are gonna succ but at least cover your bullshit a bit more
Y'all can't recognize media manipulation if it walked it to you and bit you on the ass lol. Maybe try reading the actual interview and critiquing that instead of an article someone wrote about the interview lol.
Yeah, she's supportive of the Dems in the actual interview, no surprise there, but the quote in the start of the tweet isn't even hers. This probably goes out to like, the five people who read the wsws article, but incomplete quotes should set of your Sus Alarm, at least.
So many bad takes in this thread lmfao. This isn't even an "AOC good" argument it's just a "be accurate in your critiques" post
Beat me to it. I was gonna say this exact thing. You're just going to listen to some paraphrase from some trot newspaper and have it tell you what to think? Just read the damn thing for yourself directly. Cut out the middle man.
edit: As you said, it's not an "AOC good" thing but like, they are not even honestly quoting her
quote from trot paper:
Ocasio-Cortez presents the Democratic Party as having been completely transformed into a working class party. She says the Biden administration and incumbent Democrats are “totally reinvent[ing] themselves in a far more progressive direction.”
actual quote by AOC:
There’s a lot of that work that we can do outside of electoralism. But there is critical electoral work to be done as well. I think the strategy of supporting candidates, when that strategy is very calculated, focused, precise, when we aren’t casting our net too wide beyond the capacities of any given local organization, is extremely effective. Mounting continued primary challenges or just supporting candidates in general, putting candidates in open seats … I’ve seen the impact of it from the inside—how much even incumbent members of Congress will totally reinvent themselves in a far more progressive direction, because they know that their communities are watching.
like, where does she say that the DNC is now "completely transformed into a working class party"?
like, where does she say that the DNC is now “completely transformed into a working class party"
No where! Like you said, it's not even an honest quote, but when you think about how beneficial it is to have people reading about how progressive Democrats are, the WSWS article makes a lot more sense, and I'm totally expecting further articles from other outlets carving up the interview and basically writing fan fiction
Like you said there, it's a “be accurate in your critiques” thing. Ok, like, I don't even have a very well-developed opinion of her or anything. She's way more accommodating to the DNC than I would like, and I don't blame someone for just saying like "electoralism is a spook; AOC is a lib sucdem" but like, if it's true that AOC BAD then like, just talk about the actual bad things and not the made-up quotes.
This article is close to 'making up a guy and then getting mad at him for being wrong' levels of inaccurate.
It’s a ‘privileged critique’ to say that Biden has not done enough for brown people? Because saying this insults the brown people who voted for him? I’m out lmao
There is supportive of the dems and there is this
https://twitter.com/andraydomise/status/1375577565960810500?s=19
Even the misquotes you say people are wrongfully criticizing her for are better than these
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I've given you the interview lol but I guess twitter works
Hedges talked about AOC in his interview with Bad Faith, saying that the system and party forces good intentioned people into Faustian bargains and corruption because their exchange is that at least the AOCs of Congress can get some bills and legislative victories that help their constituents somewhat. Or they commit to politics for the prestige, honor, or to inhibit "worse" politicians from entering Congress.
Yeah thats sad but also a reason to not waste time and energy coalescing around them or behind their "stuggle" as a strategy. Its not a fight for the working class to participate in since it isnt one that will advance any socialist cause
Hedges reiterates that in the interview, that a catharsis or coherent vision for a new society has to be collaborative project among activists, workers, and organizers rather than a fixation on just gerring the right people with the right inside leverage inside the levers of power.
I think AOC is popular among online left liberals is because she is an online proxy who reprimands Republicans, and that is the closest thing you can get to relieve anxiety from living in a country that is saturated in political impotence and indifference to the human spirit.
Another one bites the dust :jokerfied: took less than 2 terms, mashallah
Dig deeper into dem electoral politics
Entryism to lib parties (let alone one of the most capitalist and antisocialist parties of all time) is basicaly like digging for the greater part of the last century , reaching the core of the earth having only find tons of cow shit on the way and then turning back to the working class and saying:
"ok folks , just a bit deeper. The gold is right there trust me! We gonna be so rich. Just smash that pickaxe harder"
I find it hard to take WSWS seriously
Good instinct, keep not taking them seriously.
So this is what they meant when they said AOC was hiding her power levels
I wrote her off after she threw Omar under the bus during the bullshit "Benjamin controversy" but it's still funny to watch the facade fall apart completely, only took two years, gotta hand it to them DC works fast on these shitlibs
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/03/26/aoc-m26.html
Here's the full article if anyone wants to read it.
