i swear to god, if i hear one more dumbass say a variant of "stupid-asses not reading theory" im gonna cum down their fucking throat.

like holy shit, slow the hell down queen. sorry that some of us don't feel like trying to decipher formal register bullshit, and would rather get their theory from people who don't sound like plantation owners.

"The surplus-value produced by prolongation of the working day, I call absolute surplus-value."

What the fuck is this supposed to mean? Is he talking about making long-ass workdays? Is he talking about creating extra value by overworking? What the fuck is it? Holy shit, the classism is rampant here and it's super fuckin' annoying to see.

If you tell somebody to read theory then you better be ready to help them fucking read it. Either that or don't tell them to at all, I could really give a shit what old generally-white guys said about a subject that I can understand by taking off fifteen minutes of my time to ask someone in a leftist discord. Ancient theory is useless in a modern domesticated setting, no-one talks like Marx nowadays.

/vent

  • GlacialTurtle [none/use name]
    5·
    4 years ago

    Then maybe they could just ask without writing several paragraphs about a single term they saw and didn't know, and just ask like a normal person who was actually interested in understanding.

      • GlacialTurtle [none/use name]
        4·
        4 years ago

        So what? All fields have their own terminology. They have to in order to be able to develop their fields. They all describe their own concepts, shorthands etc. This is not unique to Marx.

        • yeehawman1312 [he/him,any]
          3·
          4 years ago

          Of course it isn't, anarchist theory is the exact same, I only took Marx because hes the most wordy piece of shit I could mention at the time.

          • GlacialTurtle [none/use name]
            5·
            4 years ago

            Yes, jargon abounds, is specific to the subject, and is less accessible than lay terms. I’m not advocating to not use or reference jargon, but if you cannot also explain ideas in simpler terms, what is their worth to people that may have difficulties with that jargon?

            Good thing no one is against explaining anything then.

            “Fuck you, read theory” does nothing to help anyone. Help your comrades, dont admonish them.

            "Fuck you, old books bad" doesn't help anyone either. It actively makes discussion worse and less likely. Why should someone have the patience to help if you just write paragraphs of nonsense complaining about a new term you don't know. As I've already said just ask like a normal person actually interested in the subject .

              • GlacialTurtle [none/use name]
                5·
                4 years ago

                Writing paragraphs out of frustration at how difficult diving into theory/ideas that run counter to everything we’ve been told and sold til now, seems pretty reasonable tbh. “How do I make sense of this” shouldn’t be cause to shun the person. Please come down from that high horse, o’ learned one.

                "Fuck books, fuck old white men [Marx was Jewish]" because they encountered one fucking term. If you want help, learn to ask in good faith. It's not that hard.

                • yeehawman1312 [he/him,any]
                  4·
                  4 years ago

                  Except I was never asking a question, I was voicing my annoyance with how people feel about theory. I literally never insulted Marx, and I used him as an example once.

                  I don't fucking care that he was Jewish, that doesn't matter to me. I said 'generally-white' because, AND SHOCKER, white men were generally very educated back when theory was being produced.