i swear to god, if i hear one more dumbass say a variant of "stupid-asses not reading theory" im gonna cum down their fucking throat.

like holy shit, slow the hell down queen. sorry that some of us don't feel like trying to decipher formal register bullshit, and would rather get their theory from people who don't sound like plantation owners.

"The surplus-value produced by prolongation of the working day, I call absolute surplus-value."

What the fuck is this supposed to mean? Is he talking about making long-ass workdays? Is he talking about creating extra value by overworking? What the fuck is it? Holy shit, the classism is rampant here and it's super fuckin' annoying to see.

If you tell somebody to read theory then you better be ready to help them fucking read it. Either that or don't tell them to at all, I could really give a shit what old generally-white guys said about a subject that I can understand by taking off fifteen minutes of my time to ask someone in a leftist discord. Ancient theory is useless in a modern domesticated setting, no-one talks like Marx nowadays.

/vent

  • yeehawman1312 [he/him,any]
    5·
    4 years ago

    Then use a fuckinng word that can easily be understood by anyone. Don't say surplus-value, say fucking "unpaid work".

    I'm a leftist for a reason, because every other ideology doesn't give a fuck about the poor, if you aren't willing to translate the theory into something understandable then don't get pissy at me for thinking that the theory is dumbshit.

    • GlacialTurtle [none/use name]
      3·
      4 years ago

      Then use a fuckinng word that can easily be understood by anyone. Don’t say surplus-value, say fucking “unpaid work”.

      Because "extra cash" is not a sufficient term to describe or capture what is actually being discussed. It is not even merely the term in itself, it is a set of concepts that are interrelated in order to explain an important aspect of how Marx describes and explains the capitalist system. Surplus-value is not merely "extra-cash", nor is it even merely "unpaid work" in general laymans sense. These concepts require their own terminology to convey the specific meaning Marx is aiming to get across.

      It is genuinely hard to get this across if you just refuse to simply accept that there are terms of art or jargon in every field, and that quite often these terms exist to describe concepts, behaviours, systems etc that cannot always be adequately described in pure laymans terms, or where terms have specific historical origins and therefore historical significance within that field.

      This just highlights that you're speaking from a place of ignorance, which might have been fine if you just engaged productively, but instead you had a dumb knee-jerk reaction to some terms you didn't know.

      I’m a leftist for a reason, because every other ideology doesn’t give a fuck about the poor, if you aren’t willing to translate the theory into something understandable then don’t get pissy at me for thinking that the theory is dumbshit.

      Well I'm sorry, but sometimes learning requires coming to understand terms you aren't already familiar with. These terms are often useful once you actually learn what they are and why someone might have coined them.