Going against the grain: people don’t steal candy bowls because of poverty. The majority of trick or treaters will live in the same neighborhood and therefore also live in McMansions.
The video is mostly for fun, being derivative of his larger series where he pranks porch pirates with glitter/stink bombs. Porch pirates affect everyone, not just McMansion grillpilled people, it happens in poorer neighborhoods too.
This same guy also has a series where he helped bust a scam call center in India that was duping elderly Americans of their savings. I’m sure there will be Hexbears who say “the Americans deserved it and the Indians needed the money more” but I don’t think scamming working class grandparents is the bleeding edge of revolutionary action.
Saw something that actually pissed me off this Halloween. Walking around, there was this house of teenagers with their light on and a paper sign saying they weren't handing out candy. Okay, that's fine. But then their friend's car keeps speeding up and down the road, where they're literally just dumping people's bowls into their bags and bringing it into the house. These teenage assholes were essentially ruining trick or treating in the neighborhood because everybody's "take 1" bowl was being emptied for this house party where the only thing I heard at the door was "PICKLE RIIIICK". IDK, I just think it's a real dick move to purposefully try to steal every open bowl in the neighborhood for a house party of teenagers/adults acting like children. I got pissed when my kids came across 4 empty bowls in a row super early in the night. Like it's trying to ruin a holiday for kids. Don't mean to sound like a chud, but if people widespread can't even honor how something as relatively meaningless as the candy bowl is for everybody, how do we expect a society built on communal ownership and looking out for each other to work?
Yes, candy theft is that serious on Halloween. It is meaningless, but that's also like why would you take something meaningless from literal children. If you live in a neighborhood of mostly parents, stealing people's bowl is the equivalent of stealing Christmas from a bunch of kids. There are plenty of conversations to be had about Christmas, just like Halloween, but even if you steal from the richest houses in the area, stealing candy or Christmas gifts from kids is literally an idiom for a dick move, literally Grinch shit. Plus, it's "trick or treat". People love a good prank for Halloween. When someone's hand comes out of a bowl from seemingly nowhere on Halloween, it's cool special effects. As a kid, I'd still be willing to give some candy to someone else's bowl for a good trick instead of a treat, regardless of whether or not I was a thief.
where the only thing I heard at the door was "PICKLE RIIIICK"
Justin Roiland's fanbase and assholes, name a tighter overlap.
They were literally 80's after school special villains. All but 2 of them wearing something with Pickle Rick on it managed to only be a cherry on top for how straight out of a parody these people were. My kids and I walked around the culdesac to look for candy bowls, only to be met with empty bowls and loud ass "PICKLE RIIIIIIIICK!"s at every house.
Sometimes my life is literally just a bad 4chan copypasta.
It's possible they'd have been sociopathic assholes without that show, but that show certainly gave them a focal point that normalized the idea to them of "being a sociopathic asshole makes you smart and funny and the main character."
This same guy also has a series where he helped bust a scam call center in India that was duping elderly Americans of their savings.
Was this the one where he once again deployed stink bombs to choke out an office full of people?
For some reason, all of these videos seem to have a theme. The goal is to make one particular person as miserable as possible, on camera. And the pretext always seems to be "who can I find that I can justify doing this to?"
It's all just spectacle. And the targets are, incidentally, almost always
for some crazy reason.I won’t argue that it is spectacle. It clearly is for entertainment purposes—basically justice porn without involving the police, excluding the call center case.
I never got the vibe he was specifically targeting minorities or even poor people. I mean yeah if you’re in poverty then you might be more likely to steal, but stealing from other people in your neighborhood (ie same class) makes everyone hate them. You might be onto something with him though, maybe a general NIMBYism, but I think many people can relate to the frustration of having their package stolen, and I struggle to equate that frustration with some sort of class warfare when it impacts everybody who shops online.
The goal is to make one particular person as miserable as possible, on camera
The mantra on Hexbear is that bullying works. People are group shamed in the comments here with the aim of forcing reflection on actions/opinions. It’s fair game as long as the misery is kept in proportion, which IMO is true for a glitter bomb.
The mantra on Hexbear is that bullying works.
We've also got a strong "shoplifting is cool" sentiment and a long-standing "crime wave politics is media bullshit" standing view.
The fetishization of porch piracy cuts across both. It fuels the hysteria and paranoia of suburban life. It villainizes poor people, particularly people of color, who always feature prominently in these series - whether they're indian call center workers or black porch pirates. And the "pranks" grow increasingly vindictive over time - escalating from honking horns to glitter bombs to stink bombs and even on to pepper spray and fireworks in some more extreme examples. There's no sense of retributive justice or proportional response, its just an escalating game. And in an era of people just firing shotguns through their front doors at strangers, I shouldn't need to explain why this shit has a corrosive effect on public opinion.
it's revenge porn not justice the fantasy is of retaliation.
bullying works I disagree with but the concept is more based around social ostrasisation for certain behaviours not just mean pranks
Like those videos where the youtuber leaves a tethered down bike and waits for someone to steal it and face plant while riding off. They always set them up in low-income neighborhoods.
That’s pretty funny lol. Fuck bike thieves. I don’t care if you’re poorer than the poor guy next to you. That shit is literally how many people survive in this hell world
Nah, stealing amazon packages is almost always a victimless crime. Amazon insures the packages which is why they are doing a psyop to make us care when they lose a small amount of monry
even if I’m not financially impacted, I still care if someone steals my package. I think anyone would. It’s a hassle to get the merchant to rectify the situation, and sometimes that isn’t possible if the item was limited or sold out. That doesn’t even get to situations where someone really needs their package timely, like medication.
Looting from big box stores doesn’t bother me, but it’s not as harmless to take things from regular people’s doorsteps even if they might be made whole after arguing with customer support.
The two aren't mutually exclusive. Petty theft is bad, but it's a fraction of wage theft, which is a fraction of the surplus value/rent. This type of media is fucked because it ultimately promotes policies of over-policing and harsher sentences than the more harmful forms of theft.
Yeah but in poorer neighborhoods you can use that to your advantage, my friend got a free xbox series x from Microsoft by claiming the first one they sent him got stolen off his porch then returning one of them
Amazon didn't make him file a police report? Not doubting your story, but they've started checking for police reports in my area
Most of the time they don’t. Just act irritated and they’ll eventually say alright we’ll get you a new one. Or if you find the right rep, you can just claim it came all defective and you’re too busy and annoyed to waste time returning it and they’ll just refund you the money without having to return stuff
they’ll just refund you the money without having to return stuff
This is more likely to work during the holiday season, when shipping is more expensive and takes longer
Yeah Mark Rober is a bit of a cringe lib but his content's fine. He only targets people who are being assholes and the ones who are being mild assholes only get a mild punishment. I mean the video in the OP is just about mild pranks, the kinds of things it would be acceptable to do to trick-or-treaters who hadn't even been jerks
Its unfortunate to say but his content isn't fine, its excellent, hes a goddamn freak and he makes the good videos, I hate that I like them
Lmao. He once rigged a package to blow up a drink bomb after a random black guy picked it up. Turns out he was the landlord that the porch pirates rented from briefly then he called 911. Him being a landlord aside, it’s almost as if random vigilante justice is already dumb and poorly thought out and made dumber when it’s petty suburban nonsense.
I agree that package thieves deserve to have their asses kicked because they don’t have X-ray vision, but defending engineer brained retaliation is just goofy
The pro move is putting out some candy if you want to do a bowl thing, and just refill the bowl regularly so the "theft" isn't a big deal and there's plenty for all.
the extra lazy pro move is to put out an empty bowl so it just looks like someone stole it all
I would simply not buy candy tbh
Also people coming up to your door FUCK that why would you invite that
"It's brainworms to make kids happy when kids in the local area are already doing the thing that the unwormed genius from a faraway land disapproves of"
the idea we need to export or celebrate more america is brainworm
I'm not. But if people in a local area are already doing it, like they are where I live, there's an option to not participate by leaving the front lights off for a few hours. No one would want your high and mighty speech about your righteous non-participation if you were here.
You're arguing that living in a place that has a tradition that makes kids happy, while I have no actual means or ability to leave, has some arbitrary ethical mandate for me to not make kids happy on one fun day a year where kids wear costumes and run around collecting candy because you disapprove of it?
The "invite" is just leaving the front light on, or decorating. You're being sanctimonious in a way that kids around here would find hilariously lame. They'd be fine not getting candy from you, but the speech is just... stop.
the idea we need to export or celebrate more america
TIL, having fun by dressing up is a uniquely American tradition that nobody else in the world has ever done.
Are you seriously pedojacketing over giving out candy on halloween?
Yankees gonna yank. Bacically every christian country celebrates the 1st november in this or that way, but the halloween is uniquely US thing, way more than even current iteration of consoom christmas, and its spread should be worrying since its only spreads on the wave of US cultural offensive.
Like we even have this in Poland now ffs despite (or rather thanks to) our version of that holiday is probably the most boring and awful of entire world. We should get the LatAm version instead, but the TV drilled the pumpkin shit into heads for good now.
What no grass does to a mf
As I said, have fun. Let me not have fun
No. I will not “just let people enjoy things” nor will I “just let people not enjoy things.”
abbreviated rhyming slang. seppo = septic tank = yank
I don't understand what people on this board don't understand about Halloween. Idk if you live in America, but Halloween seems to be considered an American holiday on here. Everybody roasts the nation for having no real communal connections, for the isolation the workers and their children feel, but whenever there's an event that is completely dependent on neighbors to be good to each other to work they get all up in arms about how it's "stupid" to participate when its literally just giving children candy. It may seem dramatic, but Halloween (in the US) is pretty much the only time of year you can knock on your neighbor's doors without any reservations.
Handing out $10 worth of candy is the most many people will give back to their communities that year. That is definitely worth being critical of. But the one time US citizens decide to just do something cool for no real reason other than to see each other's costumes and give each other free shit really shouldn't be on the chopping block.
whenever there's an event that is completely dependent on neighbors to be good to each other to work they get all up in arms about how it's "stupid" to participate
Where are you seeing anti-halloween posters?
I see exactly one poster on hexbear with the extremely normal take "giving out candy on halloween? p sus."
There are a few people who have made multiple threads about how Halloween is America brainrot that Europe is too good to participate in. Said threads are usually split on the subject. Personally, I just think Halloween is too good of a holiday to roast Americans for. Like I said, one day of year you can knock on any of your neighbor's doors without the worry of being shot or berated. It's one of the only Western holidays that shouldn't be any sort of struggle session.
Because Halloween is the one day of year in America you can knock on your neighbor's door without getting shot
This person just found out they live in a society with other people.
Many people put out bowls because they won't be at home though :/ Otherwise I'd just do this.
That doesn't work though. Like if I take my kids around the neighborhood and have them take everybody else's candy, it's kind of a dick move not to put out some candy for other children.
aren't they supposed to knock on the door and ask for candy
Oftentimes, those people have kids and they're taking them out trick or treating, so they aren't home.
The tragedy of the commons.
To be fair, hoarding a communal good for yourself is a dick move, especially if you're older. I encountered this as a little kid-- watching the teenage Goliath in front of me dump the whole bowl in his bag low-key broke me.
Youre a piece of shit if you booby trap a bowl though.
This reminds me of those deeply fucked up boomer surveillance commercials I had to see in public recently that made it seem quirky and cute to take camera footage of trick-or-treaters to "collect memories."
So....creepshotting on families? Including children?
How tf does
say he's tough on crime with a straight face, he sounds like a potential criminal himself? Worse yet, a criminal who commits crimes for the fun of doing something bad like he's an overgrown teenager.because to
, crime is only something minorities do in the "inner cities" and not him doing in his good suburban neighborhood.
If you don't want all the candy stolen, hand it out a piece at a time. Everyone knows that if you leave it out, it's going to probably get stolen. In fact, there's a legal terminology that has been used to go after people who do these types of things, it's called an "attractive nuisance."
You don't get to create a situation that a reaosnable person knew would lead to theft and then act like you're not in the wrong. Same with shitty drivers, you tailgate someone and they slow down to stop to make a turn, you run into them, that's on you.
🧠 : going trick-or-treating
: Calling the cops on people for giving people free food on Halloween
I mean it’s pretty easy to come up with a fictitious “-illion” number of your own
I'm gonna be a total contrarian here and say it's just a harmless prank, a halloween tradition.
Okay but if you actually steal the entire bowl of candy you are an asshole and deserve the prank. Any amount of dickish-ness from the prank is offset entirely by the dickish-ness of the person stealing the candy.
Doesn’t this guy stage the vids like this (and he also ran a fundraiser for a sham “autism AwArEnEsS” org too)
I remember back in my college public speaking class there was a woman that did a presentation on autism because her two children were on the spectrum. I remember nothing about her presentation other than her weird side note that using the r-slur is totally fine because she uses it and calls her kids her "little r-slurs." Always found it kinda weird even when I was a lot younger.
Mark rober sucks and works with cops HOWEVER the compilation in this video was hilarious
My favorite was the kid who was instantly like "AIGHT im putting it back! puuuutiing it back!"
styropyro is also always yelling, but thats just because he's excited and also has hearing damage
and yeah, mark rober partnered with cops for his porch pirates videos
A better example would’ve been literally any of his package thief videos.
