Unfortunately significant portion of my friends seem to think that saying racist, sexist, fascist things and laughing is funny and quantifies as a joke. Basically how do you get shithead white suburb kids to care about struggles of people and not play that off as a joke?

  • p_sharikov [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    In my experience it's easier to make people feel embarrassed than guilty. "Bro that's fucking cringy, why are you talking like a 7th grader who just discovered south park?"

    • garbology [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Depending on the kind of person, getting them to admit that they're punching down should make them cut it out. Hopefully they're that kind of person.

  • bewts [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    "c'mon thats not cool man", also try to think of funnier jokes with rich ppl and white ppl as the punchlines.

  • Windows97 [any, any]
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    4 years ago

    I know your situation and I just make it clear it wasn't funny. It differs from group to group, most of them you can't just say "dude thats not funny" without being shutdown as a "triggered sjw" but if you can, do it. If you can't, just find a lot of ways to say this shit isn't funny without outright saying it, you can just not laugh and carry on doing whatever you were doing, as if it didn't matter at all. You can also try to make the call uncomfortable after they make their shit jokes if its a small group. Another thing you can do is mock the shit out of similar jokes and people who make them (depending on the group you might not be able to say its bad because it's racist but you might be able to say "damn this is reddit edge-lord tier cringe" or something when your friends aren't making the ones making those jokes, kind of showing that the jokes aren't funny.) You can also send similarly edgy memes dunking on fascists, slaveowners, landlords, and whoever else it should be directed to. You could also try getting them to "ironically" do communist stuff, make it out to be a joke and just go from there. Doing things ironically is the first step to doing things unironically, for better and for worse.

    overall its a really fucking shit situation but I know how you feel. I don't know if there's any good ways to fix it this is just what I've done. I've thankfully gotten to the point where I can say "not cool man thats fucked up" and it matters but it takes a while to get there, especially if you don't always feel like you're part of the "core" of the friend group. I hope things work out for you man.

      • Windows97 [any, any]
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        4 years ago

        yeah I hope it helps. I am way to familiar with this, once you get out of high school it's so much harder to make friends at all and having people you can talk to about normal things and play games with is really important in my opinion. Its definitely very lib of me and also privileged as fuck but I do think I can still sway at least a couple of my friends over to the left. I don't think I have much of a choice anyways aside from just being isolated and alone for years.

  • Sen_Jen [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    If you're trying to keep things light without starting a discussion, just say some like "damn that's so edgy" or "calm down Hitler". It gets the point across without bringing the mood down too much

  • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Ask them why the joke is funny. Make them explain it to you. Make your own edgy jokes about killing slave owners.

      • MiraculousMM [he/him, any]
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        4 years ago

        South Park is reactionary edgy white dude nonsense.

        Not to say they've never hit the mark, they can be funny when they're punching up, but the whole premise of the show is "everything sucks equally and caring about things is bad".

  • Mardoniush [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    pull out notepad "have fun retelling that joke in the Nebraska mandatory edutainment holiday resort citizen."

  • AlephNull [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Punch them every time they do it and play it off as a joke

    • The_Jewish_Cuban [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      Unfortunately the best I can do rn is telling them to fuck off over the internet :/

  • Chapo_Trap_Horse [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    My thing is always sigh loudly and look down. It makes them feel stupid, and makes anyone laughing feel stupid too.

    If they have a good bone in their body, the sigh creeps into their dreams, no matter how much they try to hide it.

    • BtownNobody [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      Would put a caveat on this; sometimes that sigh and looking down is the desired reaction.

  • RedArmor [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I have a lot of dark humor. Gallows humor I picked up hard in the army. I’m matured to the point now where I know it is “appropriate”. People who I am comfortable making those types of jokes know very well my political views and my stance on race, trans comrades, etc.

    If you are offended I think it’s perfectly okay to be like “woah man, that’s pretty racist.” Or what have you. Other comrades have very good answers here. But I did want to be up front about my own humor.

  • Chomsky [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    That used to be the case with me. Used to constantly give them shit, and got ganged up on. Eventually enough of them came around that we gang up on them instead.

  • Alaskaball [comrade/them]A
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    4 years ago

    "Dude that's fucked up. People aren't laughing because it's funny, it's because they're shocked how fucked up your sense of humor is and don't know how to react other than to laugh it off"

    Simple emotional manipulation and undermining of self-esteem in conjunction to the (real) perception of social judgement by your peers can make anyone except those too far gone to begin to doubt themselves. Key is to make it a serious, honest, calm, and direct criticism of their behavior in a one-on-one setting so as to deny them the possible social reinforcement that comes from being "publically percieved"