Uhh are you dumb or something? Only liberals are smart and brave enough to vote early. Those dumb dumb Trump supporters are all obviously waiting until the last minute and they'll get friggin owned

I don't disagree with what you're saying here. And I agree big time about the eagerness to dunk

It was a struggle session back when it was posted but I'm enjoying the fact the responses are sincere now lol

Are you really accusing me of not caring about suffering while also saying you don't care about the opinions of the victims of that suffering? Besides, you're mistaking my point

I mean, my whole take on this is the tweet is we shouldn't extend forgiveness (which you you agree with, for similar reasons as me) and also points out that becoming a leftist doesn't undo their complicity (which I believe you agree with). But the mere mention of these points lead people in this thread to forgive troops and ignore their complicity, that's all I'm saying.

What do with vets, or how to measure possible redemption, etc, is whole different discussion

Being able to engage with the concept that we (as people who have benefited from the military the most and have never been on the receiving end of the barrel) are not the people who truly have the capacity to forgive veterans is not 'liberal' lol. We fundamentally are not in the position to do that and we should be able to have conversation about that without people rushing to create scenarios in which we can, and should, forgive them.

No worries, friend

Yes that's what I'm saying, the imperial part is jumping in all over this thread instead of engaging with the tweet

I believe not everyone here has killed off the part of their brain that was conditioned to worship the troops. No where does this tweet mention vets role in a potential revolution and here you have people kneejerking against a very basic idea

Most of the comments aren't even responding to/acknowledging the tweet either

Alright. I understand what the position is. Definitely don't agree but seeing how the whole thread is going I'll probably leave it at that lol

Yeah, that's all I'm really commenting on here. This site seems to reject cops pretty quickly but puts a lot of effort into embracing vets and I'm asking what real difference is between the two groups, outside of average age

Hmm. Personally I don't even agree with that statement, but wouldn't it be more apt to compare vets to cops that have retired and taken a pension and shit? Like most soldiers don't quit, their contract ends. Does ACAB not apply to retired cops?

I'm trying to have a good faith talk here

I just don't understand what your point was

I understand that?

I'm perpetually fascinated by people here who tout ACAB while also twisting themselves into pretzels to excuse soldiers. I guess being complicit in a system that terrorizes the poor, minorities, and marginalized groups while acting as armed forces of capital is bad on US soil, but excusable overseas? Am I understanding this right?

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