You might have already heard, but Pelosi is moving to create a body that can evaluate a President's health and capacity to lead, and remove them from office if needed.-
Specifically, section 4 of the amendment empowers Congress to set up an independent body to confront such a crisis. Congress has a constitutional duty to lay out a process by which the president is in capacity. This honors that duty by creating a standing commission of medical officials and experts selected in a bipartisan, bicameral way. A presidents's fitness for -- a president's fitness for office must be determined by the facts
Putting aside the possibility of this actually passing, let's think about this for a moment. This body is the same body referenced in the highlighted section in the above picture. This is fair game and legal etc. But did you notice the other requirement, listed before the highlighted section?
The Vice President would have to agree with this body and move to remove the President, as well
Just to make this clear, let's pretend this passes in any reasonable time frame, and then the body they established determines Trump is unfit to rule, and try to force him to step down.... Mike Pence could just say 'no, he's fine actually' and Trump would be allowed to carry on
I'm not even going to get into how the same section goes on to describe that the President can recover and then resume his duties. This is a complete non starter on so many levels, but libs are celebrating today. Grrr
Oh I understand that completely. This is incredibly on brand, I wanted to complain about it without a bunch of people going "um actually this is her playing 4D chess #yasssqueen"
Nah, having an Acting President is a really muddy thing with no real precedent for an Acting President that lasts longer than a couple hours. They really wouldn't want to get in to that, it would kill Harris's legitimacy. Imagine 4 years of the "President" not actually being the President. If they're swapping Biden out after, it will just be due to him resigning.
Yeah exactly, as it doesn't fully remove the President from their office, so the optics around Kamala would be bad and not something the party wants to deal with
So basically this only works if Pelosi, McConnell, and Pence agree that Pence should take over until the next election.
Yup, exactly. Unless everyone at the top is completely on board with it, this isn't going to do anything
Thesis: Irritating libs Antithesis: Useless libs Synthesis: Nancy Pelosi
Okay so we're going to do another impeachment 30 days before the election just so Trump can ignore it and then go "see? they tried to beat me again but I won again."
Even more useless, Pelosi said this applies to future Presidents. Not Trump.
The west coast is on fire, impending food shortages on the horizon, deadly police violence and riots in most major cities, wealth inequality off the charts, healthcare sucks, and Pelosi thinks that posing next to a poster of text that will change nothing and do nothing and supports her own interests at the expense of 99% of Americans is.......good optics? Good policy? People will think highly of this decision ?
What a useless system.
If she's doing this because she think it will work it's dumb. But as a quick own, keep people thinking about how trump gave himself covid, I like it
Cannot wait for the 24/7 media coverage over the Commission for Health Understanding and Determination.
C.H.U.D. will save us.
Wouldnt that make Pence the Prez then? Imagine this happening after election where trump wins. Would Pence do it for (pretty much)4 years as prez? Would his donors want that?
Yes people would feel betrayed but since when has that stopped a politician? How beneficial/harmful to capital would it be is more my line of thinking.
I mean, that's possible, but I think it's important to remember either one is basically a figurehead for the Republican Party and the general interests of capital. I'm sure Trump makes some members of the ruling class nervous and Pence would be preferred. Would it come to that? I don't think so, but if it did, would it really matter in a meaningful way?
That's where we move on to the next bit about the President taking his power back. Basically, unless 2/3 of Congress agrees that Trump is unfit to serve, Trump can easily take his power back.
Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and [see OP], transmit … their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue…. If the Congress … determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.
