• zangorn [none/use name]
    hexbear
    21
    4 years ago

    What if the outcome is more along the lines of 1930-1940 Germany, where the Right obliterates the country forcing the left to flee or die? And only decades from now, does the US recover as a progressive nation.

      • zangorn [none/use name]
        hexbear
        0
        4 years ago

        Yea but if we continue collapsing for the next 10 years, things can get a LOT worse. And only be able to rebuild after losing a major war. Maybe China bombs us...

        • BlueMagaChud [any]
          hexbear
          5
          4 years ago

          Inshallah

          lol, I want Xi to dress up as Truman and be all, "iT wAs NeCeSsArY", "aCtUaLlY iT sAvEd AmErIcAn LiVeS", and "WhEn YoU hAvE tO dEaL wItH a BeAsT yOu HaVe To TrEaT hIm As A bEaSt”

    • darkcalling [comrade/them,she/her]
      hexbear
      29
      edit-2
      4 years ago

      "Progressive" is a meaningless liberal term.

      The US will not have real proletarian solidarity and real socialist/revolutionary potential until substantial changes. As the heart of the empire, many would argue you're doomed to fascism due to material abundance and comfort created by imperialist exploitation of the global south. The truth is fascist social potential has been building in the US for some time. Trump took it out of the box further than anyone and it is not going to be put back in. As I see it Biden being elected puts things off, nothing more. The Republicans are going to elect an open fascist with a functioning brain and less skittishness about imperialism than Trump the next election or the one after. If the left has not made substantial gains, if liberals are convinced the system is not in free fall, that it can be repaired everyone not a reactionary is going to be in some real trouble.

      You are frankly ill informed if you think the make-up of the Supreme Court will make or break the fascist moment in the US. Fascism is a result of capitalism defending itself when contradictions have risen too high. It partners with reactionary social thought which the US is already rife on. The US is quite ready to be fascist, the capitalists just need to flick the switch once too many emergency lights start blinking. Presidents have defied them before and they often go out of their way to avoid answering constitutional violations in moments of crisis (think 9/11) even if they do happen to strongly believe it is wrong because they have no standing army or enforcers, the second the president says no their illusion of power crumbles and the respect for the institution with it.

      The best scenario for the US as far as advancing communism world-wide is for it to balkanize and break apart. This will be messy but the people in the US are too comfortable and too brainwashed for socialist revolution to occur there anytime but after every other country has already fallen.

      • zangorn [none/use name]
        hexbear
        -1
        4 years ago

        The best scenario for the US as far as advancing communism world-wide...

        What about the best case scenario overall?